Laimbeer quits as Shock coach . . . - Page 2

Stefan S · 06-16-2009, 02:01 PM

Sh%!, I do not weant to sound too much like Curry's appologist. But, is there someone clearly better who is available at this moment.

bozo the clown · 06-16-2009, 02:01 PM

I dunno. Look at the Curry thread and re-read some of that shit...

hack · 06-16-2009, 02:02 PM

Curry might, one day, be a competent head coach. Will it be here, and with this group? After all his floundering last year, he probably lacks the credibility to do it. We'll see. I still find it hard to believe that a guy can say so many of the right things, indicating such a solid understanding of the game and especially the playoffs, and then be as awful as he was. Sure, he was in over his head and with a crap roster, but still...

Money23 · 06-16-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan S

Now, I maybe totally off base about it. But, perhaps, he might have been given too harsh a treatment by this forum.

I used to feel that way, too. But it's tough to ignore a coach telling players in a huddle, "Get out there and do stuff", though. Especially when your team is losing so much.

Money23 · 06-16-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan S

Sh%!, I do not weant to sound too much like Curry's appologist. But, is there someone clearly better who is available at this moment.

Terry Porter, Avery Johnson

Stefan S · 06-16-2009, 02:13 PM

Avery, for sure. He has a track recoird.

Anyway, for real, I do not want to defend Curry too much (it's too hard and painful).

Stefan S · 06-16-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bozo the clown

I dunno. Look at the Curry thread and re-read some of that shit...

Shit is a very good term in this context, for sure.

Again, though, I just do not care too much about how well and elloquent coaches sound in public. Of course, it helps if they do a better job winning.

A big knock on Curry is, e.g., that at the end of the season we had still a legit shot at being above the 500 level and at playing Orlando (the only doable matchup). We were not able to pull it off.

Fool · 06-16-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan S

Avery, for sure. He has a track recoird.

Anyway, for real, I do not want to defend Curry too much (it's too hard and painful).

I dropped a "that's what she said" on a date recently. I got the laugh, but not a second date. I wonder if that had anything to do with it.

Money23 · 06-16-2009, 02:17 PM

Lmao!!!

hack · 06-16-2009, 02:19 PM

Chicks also dig mother jokes.

DYNOMITE · 06-16-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hack

``OK, is there anymores to say in the done stuff section of the meeting? No? OK, now on to stuffs we're gonna do, and then we'll have a Status of toothpaste tubes report...''

I laughed out loud. After, I read it again to make sure I understood how un-understandable it was. I laughed some more.

Mainevent · 06-16-2009, 07:02 PM

WNBA players may have big egos (i don't know) but they don't have big pocketbooks. They get paid a fraction of what NBA players do and their league bleeds money. Throw on top of that the fact that Laimbeer had total personnel control with the Shock, and was a far bigger name and personality than anybody on his team, that enabled him to be a total dictator. He could be the complete egotistical asshole he's always been because he had all the power. He won't have that in the NBA. He won't be able to bully NBA players.. He'll grate on players and burn out on teams like Doug Collins and Scot Skiles. Except maybe even worse, unless he changes his style up.

Fool · 06-16-2009, 07:08 PM

NBA top salary is only 90,000 I believe. It's a much shorter schedule and the league has zero revenue. Many/most players play in other leagues before and after the season.

Laimbeer Returns · 06-16-2009, 08:40 PM

Anybody remember what Pat Riley did for the Lakers before he became their head coach?

Fool · 06-16-2009, 08:49 PM

We have the internet now, no need for real memories.

Pat Riley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

hack · 06-17-2009, 12:37 AM

LOL, good way to put it.

Re this:

WNBA players may have big egos (i don't know) but they don't have big pocketbooks. They get paid a fraction of what NBA players do and their league bleeds money. Throw on top of that the fact that Laimbeer had total personnel control with the Shock, and was a far bigger name and personality than anybody on his team, that enabled him to be a total dictator. He could be the complete egotistical asshole he's always been because he had all the power. He won't have that in the NBA. He won't be able to bully NBA players.. He'll grate on players and burn out on teams like Doug Collins and Scot Skiles. Except maybe even worse, unless he changes his style up.

Those guys typically last 2/3 years before burning out. Joe never keeps coaches for longer. So instead of having idiots who don't work out and need to be fired after 2/3 years, I'll take the screamer who gets results for a short period and then burns out/gets turned out. It's Medz' idea, but I am totally up for the Collins hire one we've got the pieces in place.

Money23 · 06-17-2009, 01:06 AM

I don't want Collins back because then we have to watch him wipe the froth off of his mouth all game, every game. Somebody get that guy a Dasani.

Fool · 06-17-2009, 10:15 AM

I would only take Collins back if his contract stipulated that he had to use the towel cushion like back in his Chicago years.

hack · 06-17-2009, 10:18 AM

Fair points. Flip is a well-dressed coach.

Laimbeer Returns · 06-17-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fool

We have the internet now, no need for real memories.

Pat Riley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The point in asking about Riley was because he hardly 'paid his dues' before becoming the LA's coach. He was their broadcaster, then he stepped in as a part time assistant and when Jerry West didn't want the job it was given to Riley. Just so happened Riley got a team that had Magic, Kareem, and Worthy.

Fool · 06-17-2009, 11:07 AM

Yeah, I got that. It was a good point. I'm one who doesn't give much weight to the "he would be so much more qualified if he sat next to the Gatorade bottles for a couple years" theory.

Mainevent · 06-17-2009, 11:34 AM

Riley lucked into a job as an interim coach (after 2 years as an assistant) and happened to win an NBA title. Lambs is going to have to interview and convince somebody he can win the job and he won't have Magic, Kareem, et al propping him up.. And it's not about Xs and Os with him, he's better qualified in that area than Del Negro. It's going to be how he handles and deals with players. I mean, HBO ran a Real Sports segment where his players talked about what an asshole he was, how abrasive his personality and coaching style are.

LIke Hack said, maybe you can get 2 or 3 years out of him before he wears out his welcome. Can he be the type of guy that sets a team on the right path before he leaves?

Money23 · 06-17-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fool

I would only take Collins back if his contract stipulated that he had to use the towel cushion like back in his Chicago years.

Haha, yep. That would literally have to be in the contract.

Whitley · 06-17-2009, 12:04 PM

Timberwolves are having a 1pm press conference to announce that Kevin McHale is out as General Manager/President AND Head Coach.

Lou Stefanic · 06-17-2009, 12:37 PM

About ten years too late.

Fool · 06-17-2009, 12:48 PM

He was Millen before Millen.

Hobbs · 06-17-2009, 12:52 PM

No, Dick Vitale was Millen before Millen.

Whitley · 06-17-2009, 12:54 PM

Nah, Vitale was a great success at Detroit Mercy on his resume.

Money23 · 06-17-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lou Stefanic

About ten years too late.

Yeah, no shit.

Whitley · 06-17-2009, 01:33 PM

McHale is saying the GM in charge now didn't give a reason why he was fired.

esther kim · 06-17-2009, 01:46 PM

hahaha...McHale is funny.

I read the GM twittered the ousting.

hack · 06-17-2009, 03:35 PM

Am completely sick of twitter at this point.

bozo the clown · 06-17-2009, 04:19 PM

I am not crazy about "Twitter" either. It seems that every "technological innovation" has become another symptom of our increasingly short attention span, social retardation, and pathetic benchmark for amusement.

hack · 06-17-2009, 04:24 PM

The iran feed is full of whothehellknowswhat, and, meantime, amid the ``end of the MSM?'' bullshit, some reporters for the major papers have done brilliant work. Twitter's useful for the protestors to organize, but not all that helpful to those of us trying to see what's what over that.

bozo the clown · 06-17-2009, 04:38 PM

I remember when CNN feeds and the Internet were going to save the Tiananman Square protesters and bring Chinese democracy.

tin mad dog · 06-17-2009, 07:30 PM

It took G n R 15 years to deliver Chinese Democracy.

bozo the clown · 06-17-2009, 10:01 PM

LOL

Though its true that the "new" media have made the task of information control a lot harder for dictators.

Money23 · 06-18-2009, 09:28 AM

Heh, that was awesome, TMD.

Fool · 06-18-2009, 10:40 AM

Yeah, that was nice.

whoDean · 06-22-2009, 01:10 PM

Heard if Mark Jackson gets a Head job (Minny?) that Laimbeer would be on his staff.

Hobbs · 06-22-2009, 01:11 PM

That's good for Laimbs because everything I've seen/heard from Jackson indicates he'd be fired real quick.

Stefan S · 06-22-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

That's good for Laimbs because everything I've seen/heard from Jackson indicates he'd be fired real quick.

~chuckle~~

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Mainevent Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,321 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Riley lucked into a job as an interim coach (after 2 years as an assistant) and happened to win an NBA title. Lambs is going to have to interview and convince somebody he can win the job and he won't have Magic, Kareem, et al propping him up.. And it's not about Xs and Os with him, he's better qualified in that area than Del Negro. It's going to be how he handles and deals with players. I mean, HBO ran a Real Sports segment where his players talked about what an asshole he was, how abrasive his personality and coaching style are. LIke Hack said, maybe you can get 2 or 3 years out of him before he wears out his welcome. Can he be the type of guy that sets a team on the right path before he leaves? Last edited by Mainevent; 06-17-2009 at 11:36 AM.

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06-16-2009, 02:01 PM	#51
Stefan S Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 8,259 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Sh%!, I do not weant to sound too much like Curry's appologist. But, is there someone clearly better who is available at this moment.

06-16-2009, 02:01 PM	#52
bozo the clown Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,145 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I dunno. Look at the Curry thread and re-read some of that shit...

06-16-2009, 02:02 PM	#53
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Curry might, one day, be a competent head coach. Will it be here, and with this group? After all his floundering last year, he probably lacks the credibility to do it. We'll see. I still find it hard to believe that a guy can say so many of the right things, indicating such a solid understanding of the game and especially the playoffs, and then be as awful as he was. Sure, he was in over his head and with a crap roster, but still...

06-16-2009, 02:13 PM	#56
Stefan S Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 8,259 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Avery, for sure. He has a track recoird. Anyway, for real, I do not want to defend Curry too much (it's too hard and painful).

06-16-2009, 02:17 PM	#59
Money23 Sixth Man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: F-f-f-f-Flintown Posts: 3,941 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Lmao!!!

06-16-2009, 02:19 PM	#60
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Chicks also dig mother jokes.

06-16-2009, 07:02 PM	#62
Mainevent Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,321 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	WNBA players may have big egos (i don't know) but they don't have big pocketbooks. They get paid a fraction of what NBA players do and their league bleeds money. Throw on top of that the fact that Laimbeer had total personnel control with the Shock, and was a far bigger name and personality than anybody on his team, that enabled him to be a total dictator. He could be the complete egotistical asshole he's always been because he had all the power. He won't have that in the NBA. He won't be able to bully NBA players.. He'll grate on players and burn out on teams like Doug Collins and Scot Skiles. Except maybe even worse, unless he changes his style up.

06-16-2009, 07:08 PM	#63
Fool Water Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	NBA top salary is only 90,000 I believe. It's a much shorter schedule and the league has zero revenue. Many/most players play in other leagues before and after the season.

06-16-2009, 08:40 PM	#64
Laimbeer Returns Water Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 122 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Anybody remember what Pat Riley did for the Lakers before he became their head coach?

06-16-2009, 08:49 PM	#65
Fool Water Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	We have the internet now, no need for real memories. Pat Riley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

06-17-2009, 12:37 AM	#66
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	LOL, good way to put it. Re this: WNBA players may have big egos (i don't know) but they don't have big pocketbooks. They get paid a fraction of what NBA players do and their league bleeds money. Throw on top of that the fact that Laimbeer had total personnel control with the Shock, and was a far bigger name and personality than anybody on his team, that enabled him to be a total dictator. He could be the complete egotistical asshole he's always been because he had all the power. He won't have that in the NBA. He won't be able to bully NBA players.. He'll grate on players and burn out on teams like Doug Collins and Scot Skiles. Except maybe even worse, unless he changes his style up. Those guys typically last 2/3 years before burning out. Joe never keeps coaches for longer. So instead of having idiots who don't work out and need to be fired after 2/3 years, I'll take the screamer who gets results for a short period and then burns out/gets turned out. It's Medz' idea, but I am totally up for the Collins hire one we've got the pieces in place.

06-17-2009, 01:06 AM	#67
Money23 Sixth Man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: F-f-f-f-Flintown Posts: 3,941 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I don't want Collins back because then we have to watch him wipe the froth off of his mouth all game, every game. Somebody get that guy a Dasani.

06-17-2009, 10:15 AM	#68
Fool Water Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I would only take Collins back if his contract stipulated that he had to use the towel cushion like back in his Chicago years.

06-17-2009, 10:18 AM	#69
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Fair points. Flip is a well-dressed coach.

06-17-2009, 11:07 AM	#71
Fool Water Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Yeah, I got that. It was a good point. I'm one who doesn't give much weight to the "he would be so much more qualified if he sat next to the Gatorade bottles for a couple years" theory.

06-17-2009, 12:04 PM	#74
Whitley Water Boy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 864 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	*Timberwolves are having a 1pm press conference to announce that Kevin McHale is out as General Manager/President AND Head Coach.*

06-17-2009, 12:37 PM	#75
Lou Stefanic Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,576 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	About ten years too late.

06-17-2009, 12:48 PM	#76
Fool Water Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	He was Millen before Millen.

06-17-2009, 12:52 PM	#77
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	No, Dick Vitale was Millen before Millen.

06-17-2009, 12:54 PM	#78
Whitley Water Boy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 864 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	*Nah, Vitale was a great success at Detroit Mercy on his resume.*

06-17-2009, 01:33 PM	#80
Whitley Water Boy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 864 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	*McHale is saying the GM in charge now didn't give a reason why he was fired.*

06-17-2009, 01:46 PM	#81
esther kim Water Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 435 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	hahaha...McHale is funny. I read the GM twittered the ousting.

06-17-2009, 03:35 PM	#82
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Am completely sick of twitter at this point.

06-17-2009, 04:19 PM	#83
bozo the clown Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,145 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I am not crazy about "Twitter" either. It seems that every "technological innovation" has become another symptom of our increasingly short attention span, social retardation, and pathetic benchmark for amusement.

06-17-2009, 04:24 PM	#84
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	The iran feed is full of whothehellknowswhat, and, meantime, amid the ``end of the MSM?'' bullshit, some reporters for the major papers have done brilliant work. Twitter's useful for the protestors to organize, but not all that helpful to those of us trying to see what's what over that.

06-17-2009, 04:38 PM	#85
bozo the clown Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,145 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I remember when CNN feeds and the Internet were going to save the Tiananman Square protesters and bring Chinese democracy.

06-17-2009, 10:01 PM	#87
bozo the clown Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,145 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	LOL Though its true that the "new" media have made the task of information control a lot harder for dictators.

06-18-2009, 09:28 AM	#88
Money23 Sixth Man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: F-f-f-f-Flintown Posts: 3,941 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Heh, that was awesome, TMD.

06-18-2009, 10:40 AM	#89
Fool Water Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Yeah, that was nice.

06-22-2009, 01:10 PM	#90
whoDean Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,955 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Heard if Mark Jackson gets a Head job (Minny?) that Laimbeer would be on his staff.