Newman's favorite time of the year! Summer league schedule announced . . .

Lou Stefanic · 06-22-2009, 04:48 PM

Detroit Piston Summer League schedule announced - Full-Court Press

RodimusPrime · 06-22-2009, 07:49 PM

Any word on who is going to be there? Obviously Sharpe is going. Amir and Curry could certainly use the extra game experience.

Hobbs · 06-22-2009, 07:52 PM

Plaisted, Washington, and, like, 4 draft picks from this year...

Sidney Green · 06-22-2009, 09:51 PM

hahah...

must admit, I'm also a sucker for this time of the year. the illusion of the undrafted-underdog 2nd-round-reject-who-makes-good and breaks into the Pistons rotation is always a fantasy o mine.

Stefan S · 06-22-2009, 11:13 PM

Please, keep us posted about coverage!

TJPiston · 06-22-2009, 11:16 PM

I'm eager to see Washington's progress.

hack · 06-23-2009, 04:54 AM

I don't think it's Newman's favorite time of year. It's just that Summer-League Pass is a lot cheaper than League Pass.

JMab · 06-23-2009, 06:38 AM

Newman's lusting after young men, at this time of year, is illegal in 17 states.

The King · 06-23-2009, 09:09 AM

This is the time of year when Newman fills the Post Office truck and smuggles returnable bottles to states like Michigan to cash that $0.10 deposit.

Medz · 06-23-2009, 09:17 AM

This is the time of the year when Newman dusts off his second computer.

mn3 · 06-24-2009, 10:25 AM

This year, this is the time of the year where Newman gets pretty resigned to the fact that the Pistons are going to suck for a long time.

How on earth are we going to fill out the C and PF positions?

Mainevent · 06-24-2009, 10:32 AM

Cheick Samb is a FA.

TJPiston · 06-24-2009, 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=mn3;12728]This year, this is the time of the year where Newman gets pretty resigned to the fact that the Pistons are going to suck for a long time.

How on earth are we going to fill out the C and PF positions?[/QUOTE]

$20M, give or take in cap space

Tradable Assets

Multiple Draft picks

Hobbs · 06-24-2009, 10:46 AM

We have the backup PF and C under contract in Brown and Max. So, we're out there searching for starters. There are a lot of PFs out there to be had, so that can definitely happen. The C spot will be a little trickier, but my guess is we go a little off the reservation and get a guy that splits time with Kwame while he adjusts to more minutes. Depends on the guy.

I don't particularly love the Amir for 1.7?8?9? in cap space move, but, as I said a while ago, this offseason is a series of moves and not just one. Can't really judge until the end.

mn3 · 06-24-2009, 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=TJPiston;12734]

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Originally Posted by mn3

This year, this is the time of the year where Newman gets pretty resigned to the fact that the Pistons are going to suck for a long time.

How on earth are we going to fill out the C and PF positions?[/QUOTE]

$20M, give or take in cap space

Tradable Assets

Multiple Draft picks

OK I should be more specific. How are we going to fill out those positions with high quality players. I don't think we're going to be able to get PF's or C's who can ever lead us to a championship. Boozer - yechhhh. Bosh isn't coming over. Charlie V from Milwaukee? Does anyone think he's a young rising star or is he a head case who got his game together enough to create some buzz going into his free agency year? I just cannot understand how anyone thinks we've got a pathway to return to being a great team anytime soon. Instead, I think we're more likely headed into an era where we're going to try out lots of guys who aren't the guys who will ever be part of the next Pistons championship team.

THE PISTONS · 06-24-2009, 12:54 PM

Well IF Dumars is indeed trying to trade for Ray Allen, it indicates that he wants to have cap space next year to go after Bosh or Wade.

Maybe the plan is Gordon and Boozer this year. Then Bosh next.

bozo the clown · 06-24-2009, 01:17 PM

If Dumars had a plan for two big time free agents and got them both, that would be amazing. Seems too good to be true.

mn3 · 06-24-2009, 01:22 PM

I don't see how Boozer and Bosh could play together -- they're both PF's and neither can defend centers.

THE PISTONS · 06-24-2009, 01:24 PM

Really you aren't going to build a contender through free agency alone. You have to draft a Superstar at some point and make wise trades.

THE PISTONS · 06-24-2009, 01:27 PM

You do realize that their are only like 5 true centers in the NBA right? Rasheed played center for us and isn't a true center. Ben Wallace isn't a true center and we won a championship with him.

mn3 · 06-24-2009, 01:36 PM

Yeah, but you'd better have defensive guys who control the paint - some great shot blockers, great rebounders, physical players etc.

I don't think we'd win a thing with a Boozer, Bosh lineup, with Maxiell and Kwame backing them up. I think as things stand right now we're shy 3 big men (maybe 4) and we have to really retool at SG and SF as well, depending on which big men we can acquire over the next two to three years. The fact that we're likely to add a couple pretty good players is nice, but that alone won't come all that close to making us a serious team.

I do agree that we will need to get lucky in the draft over the next two to 3 years. We've got to add a big star - probably we need to add two really big stars not just one, and we really need Stuckey to become one as well. Until that happens, I don't expect us to become a future contender.

Billl · 06-24-2009, 01:41 PM

You don't have to play with a "true center" but you do need to be able to defend the 5 spot and control the paint. If we are going after boozer, we need to pair him with someone who can defend the 5 and hopefully block a few shots. Boozer can rebound out of his area, so that part isn't as big of a concern. We would be fine with a guy who just got boards because he was tall and wide.

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06-22-2009, 07:49 PM	#2
RodimusPrime Water Boy Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 984 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Any word on who is going to be there? Obviously Sharpe is going. Amir and Curry could certainly use the extra game experience.

06-22-2009, 07:52 PM	#3
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Plaisted, Washington, and, like, 4 draft picks from this year...

06-22-2009, 09:51 PM	#4
Sidney Green Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 93 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	hahah... must admit, I'm also a sucker for this time of the year. the illusion of the undrafted-underdog 2nd-round-reject-who-makes-good and breaks into the Pistons rotation is always a fantasy o mine.

06-22-2009, 11:13 PM	#5
Stefan S Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 8,259 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Please, keep us posted about coverage!

06-22-2009, 11:16 PM	#6
TJPiston Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,636 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I'm eager to see Washington's progress.

06-23-2009, 04:54 AM	#7
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I don't think it's Newman's favorite time of year. It's just that Summer-League Pass is a lot cheaper than League Pass.

06-23-2009, 06:38 AM	#8
JMab Water Boy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 776 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Newman's lusting after young men, at this time of year, is illegal in 17 states.

06-23-2009, 09:09 AM	#9
The King Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,900 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	This is the time of year when Newman fills the Post Office truck and smuggles returnable bottles to states like Michigan to cash that $0.10 deposit.

06-23-2009, 09:17 AM	#10
Medz Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,211 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	This is the time of the year when Newman dusts off his second computer.

06-24-2009, 10:25 AM	#11
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	This year, this is the time of the year where Newman gets pretty resigned to the fact that the Pistons are going to suck for a long time. How on earth are we going to fill out the C and PF positions?

06-24-2009, 10:32 AM	#12
Mainevent Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,321 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Cheick Samb is a FA.

06-24-2009, 10:34 AM	#13
TJPiston Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,636 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	[QUOTE=mn3;12728]This year, this is the time of the year where Newman gets pretty resigned to the fact that the Pistons are going to suck for a long time. How on earth are we going to fill out the C and PF positions?[/QUOTE] $20M, give or take in cap space Tradable Assets Multiple Draft picks

06-24-2009, 10:46 AM	#14
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	We have the backup PF and C under contract in Brown and Max. So, we're out there searching for starters. There are a lot of PFs out there to be had, so that can definitely happen. The C spot will be a little trickier, but my guess is we go a little off the reservation and get a guy that splits time with Kwame while he adjusts to more minutes. Depends on the guy. I don't particularly love the Amir for 1.7?8?9? in cap space move, but, as I said a while ago, this offseason is a series of moves and not just one. Can't really judge until the end.

06-24-2009, 12:54 PM	#16
THE PISTONS Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,185 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Well IF Dumars is indeed trying to trade for Ray Allen, it indicates that he wants to have cap space next year to go after Bosh or Wade. Maybe the plan is Gordon and Boozer this year. Then Bosh next.

06-24-2009, 01:17 PM	#17
bozo the clown Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,145 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	If Dumars had a plan for two big time free agents and got them both, that would be amazing. Seems too good to be true.

06-24-2009, 01:22 PM	#18
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	I don't see how Boozer and Bosh could play together -- they're both PF's and neither can defend centers.

06-24-2009, 01:24 PM	#19
THE PISTONS Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,185 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Really you aren't going to build a contender through free agency alone. You have to draft a Superstar at some point and make wise trades.

06-24-2009, 01:27 PM	#20
THE PISTONS Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,185 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	You do realize that their are only like 5 true centers in the NBA right? Rasheed played center for us and isn't a true center. Ben Wallace isn't a true center and we won a championship with him.

06-24-2009, 01:36 PM	#21
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	Yeah, but you'd better have defensive guys who control the paint - some great shot blockers, great rebounders, physical players etc. I don't think we'd win a thing with a Boozer, Bosh lineup, with Maxiell and Kwame backing them up. I think as things stand right now we're shy 3 big men (maybe 4) and we have to really retool at SG and SF as well, depending on which big men we can acquire over the next two to three years. The fact that we're likely to add a couple pretty good players is nice, but that alone won't come all that close to making us a serious team. I do agree that we will need to get lucky in the draft over the next two to 3 years. We've got to add a big star - probably we need to add two really big stars not just one, and we really need Stuckey to become one as well. Until that happens, I don't expect us to become a future contender.

06-24-2009, 01:41 PM	#22
Billl Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,382 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	You don't have to play with a "true center" but you do need to be able to defend the 5 spot and control the paint. If we are going after boozer, we need to pair him with someone who can defend the 5 and hopefully block a few shots. Boozer can rebound out of his area, so that part isn't as big of a concern. We would be fine with a guy who just got boards because he was tall and wide.