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Old 10-29-2010, 09:36 PM   #101
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Oh ok. Wow this is going to be a long season. Pistons down 12
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This thread is stupid. This is less about Monroe and more about Kuester being an asshole and holding some sort of grudge against him.
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yeah I heard that dumars could have traded for Howard as well....and if you hear it it must have been true
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Pistons' Will Bynum will not play in home opener; John Kuester 'not sure' when Greg Monroe will play

Published: Friday, October 29, 2010, 7:05 PM Updated: Friday, October 29, 2010, 9:56 PM

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AUBURN HILLS -- The sore hamstring that limited point guard Will Bynum during the preseason is now keeping him out of regular-season games.
Bynum will miss the home opener tonight against the Oklahoma City Thunder with a sore right hamstring after tweaking the injury late in the game Wednesday at New Jersey.


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“I think on one of those moves at the end of the game out in Jersey, I kind of re-injured it,” Bynum said. “I really can't run right now, but hopefully in a couple days.”
Bynum, a Chicago native, did not want to rule himself out of the game today against the Bulls, but he said he would probably not be able to play.
Bynum did not play in the final two preseason games due to the injury.
What about Greg Monroe?

Pistons coach John Kuester was asked whether Greg Monroe is likely to play tonight.
"I've got a lot of confidence in him," Kuester said. "I'm excited about getting him in. But I'm not sure when it will happen."




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Old 10-30-2010, 12:36 AM   #105
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They should have asked why this is about Greg Monroe and not about Jason Maxiell's total incompetence. Or does he not have to play well to keep his job, because Kuester likes him and doesn't like Monroe?

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Larry Brown probably told Kuester not to play rookies
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"I've got a lot of confidence in him," Kuester said. "I'm excited about getting him in. But I'm not sure when it will happen."


Maybe he's so excited to get him in there that it just totally slips his mind come gametime...and throughout.
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:47 AM   #108
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As much as I'm not a fan of Monroe, he should at least give him a shot. I'm sick of watching undersized Maxiell in there
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On Thursday, Kuester explained why:
"What happen is that you have four bigs, and Greg is going to be a big key to this situation. I have a tremendous amount of confidence in him. Max had played with more energy than I had seen in Greg at times, and yet Greg is going to be someone that is going to continually work hard. His chance is going to come.

See, it's all about the effort.


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I think half the NBA was drafted without a workout session. Joe Dumars himself did not work out with the pistons prior to the 1985 draft.

Jerry West had the opportunity to work out Kobe Bryant and declined. He said it was pointless.
I made that comment for 3 reasons:

1. Dumars drafted Cleaves then brought up how hard he was pushing himself with the pushups during the workout.

2. Dumars drafted Monroe and said that despite not working him out, he wasn't worried about his toughness ... cuz his college coach said he was tough.

3. I wasn't a big fan of drafting Monroe (although I admit it was the seemingly clear choice, so you won't really hear me bitch too hard at Dumars) ... because drafting widely-noted-to-be-soft big men is never a good idea (although Pau Gasol who might have had a soft label at draft time has proven franchise-caliber).
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PS the thing with Monroe isn't that he lacks athleticism, it isn't that he lacks explosiveness, it CERTAINLY isn't that he lacks skills or basketball IQ.

It's that he simply seems to lack desire.

That's it in a nutshell ... dude simply doesn't seem to play hard out there.
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THANK YOU!!!!!! If you watch the summer leagues, open practice and pre season game...dude seem too passive and doesn't try hard. Not a Piston type player. Cousins on the other hand...................nevermind!!!!
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If sitting for 2 games makes Monroe hustle, then these 2 games were totally worth it.
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If sitting for 2 games makes Monroe hustle, then these 2 games were totally worth it.
We should continue to sit him, not to teach him a lesson, but because it's much more productive to bitch about him constantly and masturbate over Cousins, because we clearly could have had him for the 7th pick, Prince, and a box of envelopes. B.I.G. knows this, I'm sure of it.
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"it's much more productive to ... masturbate over Cousins"

Before I try, are you sure about it?
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Yes, it's worth it. I've replaced all the porn on my porn computer with a picture of Cousins with his shirt off. He's got way bigger tits than Micah Moore.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:16 PM   #117
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There is a truth to every rumor. I think Daye is good enough to start at small forward...I really do. Getting rid of Prince for Cousins and a number 7 is worth it to me. Which is why I made this thread in the first place. I'm sick of these passive ass PF. We need a beast for a change. Are rumors are full of lies? I believe if Dumars really wanted Cousins, he could of had him..not settle. Because of Dumars unwilling to trade Prince..We are stuck with full of Sg and Sf on our roster. Could have got rid of Prince and started Daye..shit even Kstat would of for that to happen. Stop with all this BS about how good Monroe is. Dude is ok. He will not be a superstar, he's soft and he don't fit the Pistons DNA. The more I talk about his the more angry I get. Even more pissed the game is not on television today and the Spartan are getting their asses kicked.
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Dude, everyone sees that Monroe and Tay for Cousin is good for us.
Joe would have done it if it was on the table.
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Tell that to Kstat, homie
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I wanted COusins on draft day. I'm just not a total moron that thinks Monroe is a bad player.
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You guys don't get it. Had we played Monroe, we'd be 0-3 because he is a rookie and lacks experience.
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Maxiell and Hamilton are most responsible for our losses thus far. Blaming Joe for not making a phantom trade is pointless, as is blaming Monroe for not having the pick that resulted in him becomming a Piston traded away. Yes, everyone agrees that we would have rather had Cousins, but I'd say the odds favor a scenario where Sacramento told us to fuck off when offered Prince and the #7.
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I wanted COusins on draft day. I'm just not a total moron that thinks Monroe is a bad player.
Characterizing anyone who thinks Monroe is a bad player as a total moron is the kind of abuse that keeps Pistons Forum lurkers from becoming Pistons Forum posters. Pacers Digest would not stand for that kind of douchebaggery.
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Yeah, probably not. Good thing I'm here then.
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Him calling me a "moron" doesn't bother me at all, that's why I still post here
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Kuester has a big conspiracy to keep talented players on the bench.
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The CIA is in on it.
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It depends on what the word "is is" means.
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Dumars is for putting together this roster.
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Mob, actually I think K stat is in compliance with Pacers Digest rules. Article 4, verse 12 says that you can't use namecalling, yes. BUT, verse 13 if I'm not mistaken allows an epithet aimed at a specific person (not a group), and only once in the discussion. And, once a week. So that's K stat's for this one.
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I can't wait for the youtube video of the Pacers Digest Halloween party.

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I'm worried that the putrid 0-3 start will hurt our popularity -- maybe we should ban somebody...
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I could go for an old-school bannin'. Let's show Money23 the door, really shake up the system.
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Yeah, let's show that bastard the door...
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He'll never see it coming, plus it'll keep everyone on their toes. Nobody's safe.
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Plus all the Pacers Digest readers will realize we ban people, relax, and start posting...
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Will we also ban his 15 aliases too?
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Careful,
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Yeah, but we keep his daughter, to show we're benevolent...
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Dumars turning down a Ray Allen and Rondo for Hamilton/Prince/Stuckey trade is bad also. That one appears to have been on the table for real.
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Supposedly the trade was Nocioni and the Kings 5th for Prince and the 7th. So there was a salary dump aspect involved too in that trade.
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Yep but some here are denying that trade was never discussed.
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Thus far (3 games in, whoa geez) FAVORS looks like the guy who is outperforming the expectations going in. 19 year old rookie who was averaging 8.5 boards coming into today, came up with 13 today including TEN offensive rebounds (that's just wrong).
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Yeah I didn't see the fuss about him until I saw him against the pistons. I know Jersey glad they didn't trade him, dudes gonna be a beast.
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Yep but some here are denying that trade was never discussed.
I don't recall anyone here saying a trade was never discussed. Others, however, are saying that it was a done deal until Dumars didn't pull the trigger because he couldn't live without Prince. Who could that be?
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Dumars is for putting together this roster.
A valid point, but we have to play with the players we have, and I can't understand why Maxiell is playing at all over Monroe or anyone else. Hamilton also looks like he just doesn't care.
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Hamilton doesnt' care. He's becoming a cancer.
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It is true that patience is a virtue when making trades, but I am afraid that Joe might be constitutionally incapble of trading Rip or Tay for less than what he considers to be their true baasketball value to a team. Joe has to confront the fact that sometimes you have to do addition by subtraction.
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Exactly. I'm pretty sure the Pistons will have some sort of Identity if Rip and Tay are gone.
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Ben Gordon needs to start. He attacks the basket and can shoot.
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