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Old 05-07-2009, 01:42 AM   #101
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Phil...lol love phil's look at the officials.

I did not see the call he is mentioning in utah..
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I agree with barkley...fish watched him come...then measured and then delivered the blow...
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Phil...lol love phil's look at the officials.

I did not see the call he is mentioning in utah..
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Artest sounded very good after the game...his explanation sound perfect to me. I agree he shouldhave been a tech and that is it. He seems to handle it perfect after the game.
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I want to hear what happened with wafer getting kicked of the bench...idiot just lost him some money this off season...

I think barkley just said "those two guys could fight out of a wet sack of potatoes..." not sure what he was talking aboutmissed it but that is classic barkley...lol
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Alston and Fisher both got one game suspensions to be served Friday night. Kobe's shot to Artest's chest was upgraded to a Flagrant 1.
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I think that was appropriate. Artest was all over Kobe, clearly fouling him from behind on that rebound in that mauling style he plays.
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The only thing I would have like to see was Artest not to get tossed. but can somewhat understand it.
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I like Houston, they play a hard-nosed, bad-boys style of basketball.
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Atlanta is less competitive than we were against Cleveland. Seems like it's LeBron's year (decade).
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yeah Most of atlanta's players have packed it in now....Zaza still fighting....

hate it when officials do the preverbial pile on....josh smith got laid out by lebron from behind but no call...I mean a foul is foul..
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Most of atlanta's best players were on the sideline. The Hawks aren't as good at the cavs even when at full strength. If you take out 3 of their starters, they have no shot.

The cavs basically have a cake walk to the finals. We blew it up 4 games into the season. Orlando lost their starting pg. The celts lost KG. The hawks lost everyone. Nobody else in the east can even make the games competitive.
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Really the Lakers and maybe Denver are the only teams that I can see beating Cleveland.
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I'm still hopeful Houston can upset the lakes. At the very least, it looks like it's going to be an entertaining series.
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Hawks were missing horford and williams when the game began but they really quit before johnson went out.
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I had thought that a Lakers/Cavs battle would be one hell of a duel, but after seeing both teams, the only outcome I see is Cleveland winning it all. If there are no major injuries. I'm not even convinced that the Lakes are going to win the West.

Still some interesting matchups on the way to the finals and much blood to be spilt. This post-season seems to be much more physical than in recent memory and we're only in round two.
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Without Fisher, LA should go down tonight. They really do not have much debt ,and Bynum seems kinda out of sinc, so they cannot play him much. Also, Artest is a really good defender on Kobe.

If Houston plays strong physical games, if the pound the ball inside and put bodies on teh Lakers, they have good chances to take two at home and really put somke serious preassure on the Lakers.
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Also, I do not see how Orlando is going to prevail. They need a strong leader or two. And it does not seem to be the Superman (as much as I like him and would love him on our team) and it's definitely is not Stan VG. Any coach who says to the team i na free fall sth like "we need to crank it up or this game will go to the wire" (what he said in the huddle during the first game) has no clue about coaching.

So, I think Boston will win tonight and will regain the home court advantage and will eventually prevail. As a matter of fact, MAgic seems so mentally weak, that teh Celts may be capable of winning two in Orlando.
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Alias gym rat here....I had a bitch of a time switching over from the closed forum. I had to change my name, think of a new password, and use my brother's email address to be able to post again. (I won't take it personally.)

I have been speed reading through the last few days posts. Why do you guys dislike Lebron so much? I watch him and think, shit....he's such a gooooood player. He's faster, stronger, quicker, smarter, more intense, practices more, can play any position, has height, power, is a leader, is a beautiful jumper, can throw down a dunk like no other,etc. Your right, he doesn't have to do the tough guy thing after dunking, but I try to ignore that. Life's too short. Watch him and enjoy.
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I don't hate LeBron. Certainly not like I hated Jordan.
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I tell you I want to watch the lakers houston game tonight...I want to see that....

Orlando is looking good tonight.
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of course as soon as I say that celtics cut it to 12 pt lead...lol

house is shooting out of his head this series...
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nine point game...orlando shows what happens if you start relaxing...
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Houston does have the only team in the league with a chance of actually defending LeBron -- I'm not sure I could pick a pair of players in the league much better than Artest & Battier if I wanted to guard LeBron.
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yeah they can switch off ... and stay fresher...
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Definitely.

They both have enough size and athleticism to not get completely overwhelmed and they play different kinds of very effective defense to keep LeBron off balance.

Of course, I say that and I watch Kobe drain a last second 3rd-quarter 3-pointer over Artest despite nearly perfect defense.
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Arest ejected again vs. Lakers. There's the problem -- he goes over the line too easily, doesn't know when to quit.
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Without Fisher, LA should go down tonight. They really do not have much debt ,and Bynum seems kinda out of sinc, so they cannot play him much. Also, Artest is a really good defender on Kobe.

If Houston plays strong physical games, if the pound the ball inside and put bodies on teh Lakers, they have good chances to take two at home and really put somke serious preassure on the Lakers.
Wrong...
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Without Fisher, LA should go down tonight. They really do not have much debt ,and Bynum seems kinda out of sinc, so they cannot play him much. Also, Artest is a really good defender on Kobe.

If Houston plays strong physical games, if the pound the ball inside and put bodies on teh Lakers, they have good chances to take two at home and really put somke serious preassure on the Lakers.
Wrong... Kobe goes wild and Artest goes ballistic -- again. L.A. got one of those vintage games from Odom.

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Also, I do not see how Orlando is going to prevail. They need a strong leader or two. And it does not seem to be the Superman (as much as I like him and would love him on our team) and it's definitely is not Stan VG. Any coach who says to the team i na free fall sth like "we need to crank it up or this game will go to the wire" (what he said in the huddle during the first game) has no clue about coaching.

So, I think Boston will win tonight and will regain the home court advantage and will eventually prevail. As a matter of fact, MAgic seems so mentally weak, that teh Celts may be capable of winning two in Orlando.
And wrong agian. Orlando crushes Boston.

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Arest ejected again vs. Lakers. There's the problem -- he goes over the line too easily, doesn't know when to quit.
That didn't look like a flagrant to me...let alone a flagrant 2.
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why do I dislike BronBron? after the '07 series against the PIstons, he said something to the effect:

"I can't believe those refs went for my flop" - in calling a foul against the PIstons during the '07 ECF.

That and the Zo-like flexing and pseudo-emotions (1st shot off).

Do I respect his game? may be the best ever.
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Yeah I think he ends up being the best ever or no worse than 3rd best but I can't stand the guy or the Cavs.
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I like LeBron. He's an amazing talent, does stuff on the court that I've never seen and he's not a me-first guy on the court like Kobe for most of his career and also the guy we had to deal with this year. There's nobody in the league that I'd rather have be a Piston right now. Is it his fault that he had the disadvantage of being born in Ohio?

So he said he flopped? At least he owned up to it. I far prefer that to lying or trying the Phil Jackson spin/lie/whine method.

As for the Lakes being weaker without Fish, all the lakes fans at World X thought they'd be better off without him. Farmar did step up and Shannon Brown was okay. The ESPN guys were speculating that the lakes should start Farmar the rest of the way.
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That didn't look like a flagrant to me...let alone a flagrant 2.
Agreed. He went for (and hit) the ball while fouling Gasol. It was a reputation ejection and probably only happened because there was less than 2 minutes left in the game and the refs were afraid he might do something worse later. 2 other guys fouled Gasol on that shot as well.

I was surprised the refs didn't use the replay option as that is something they often do to make sure that a flagrant 2 was warranted.

Kobe even said after the game that he didn't think it was anything more than a hard playoff foul and maybe a flagrant 1.
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Arest ejected again vs. Lakers. There's the problem -- he goes over the line too easily, doesn't know when to quit.
I third what the guys above said.... Bozo did you even watch the foul? The refs have been screwing Artest the whole series with these reputation calls and I actually wish he would flagrant foul Kobe's motor mouth ass. Never didn't like Kobe before but I'm starting to really dislike him now.
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Artest's foul was downgraded to a Flagrant 1. If the game had been close, an unfair ejection could have cost Houston the game.
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Denver up 3 games to zero now. Anthony hit a 3 with one second left for the W. Mark Cuban is going to go ballistic. He's shoving cameramen out of the way right now and I'm sure he'll have some choice comments soon. The Mavs claim they fouled Anthony before the shot. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but it wasn't super blatant given an end game situation.
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Love to see the baby Mavs and Cuban get crushed.

They claim they fouled Anthony? Well, if the defender Antoine Wright actually intended to foul him as the Mavericks claimed, then he was too fucking stupid to GRAB him instead of letting Anthony bounce off his upraised arms and chest, keep going, and score. What a moron. Just wrap him up so that nothing can happen...

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I third what the guys above said.... Bozo did you even watch the foul? The refs have been screwing Artest the whole series with these reputation calls and I actually wish he would flagrant foul Kobe's motor mouth ass. Never didn't like Kobe before but I'm starting to really dislike him now.
You're right and I am wrong on that one... I just made my comments based on the ejection, not on seeing the actual foul.
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Apparently the refs admit they missed the intentional foul, but come on, doesn't Wright know how to purposely foul a guy? If he's right in front of you driving, you can't leave anything to chance.
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Christ, Yao is out for the playoffs with a stress fracture in his foot. The Rockets can't catch a break. Shoot.

He's been great, but now I am convinced Yao will never have a full career. Hes been hurt four years in a row now...
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Denver up 3 games to zero now. Anthony hit a 3 with one second left for the W. Mark Cuban is going to go ballistic. He's shoving cameramen out of the way right now and I'm sure he'll have some choice comments soon. The Mavs claim they fouled Anthony before the shot. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but it wasn't super blatant given an end game situation.
I though tit was a very obvious tactical foul. The refs should have expected it and should have called it, especially that they were calling this sort of fould througout the game.

Dallas seems done.
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Wrong... Kobe goes wild and Artest goes ballistic -- again. L.A. got one of those vintage games from Odom.



And wrong agian. Orlando crushes Boston.
yeap. wrong on both accounts.

Bosto seemed to em fried out. They still may prevail against Orlando. But Cleveland will destoy them.
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I though tit was a very obvious tactical foul. The refs should have expected it and should have called it, especially that they were calling this sort of fould througout the game.

Dallas seems done.
Yeah, but I don't get why a guy throws his arms straight up and bumps for a tactical foul. I've seen players grab the opponents wrist or wrap them up. It's not enough to stand there.
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With the way the game was called, I can't believe they missed an intentional foul like that.

The teams combined for what, 70+ free throws?

And they missed that?
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Like Bozo said, if the guy just grabs his arm or wraps him up, there's no question about the call. 99.9% of the time that's what happens. Wright slapped down then put his hands up as to say "I didn't foul him."
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The refs should have called somethng, but Wright was a dumbass. WTF? He doesn't know how to foul in basketball yet?
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I hear the fallout has Dallas wanting to trade for......
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Old 05-10-2009, 03:55 AM   #149
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It's a crying shame about Yao Ming's foot. I have so much respect for the big fella, the way he plays and the way he's handled the pressure of being the face of China and I hate to see him hurt (again).
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Old 05-10-2009, 04:21 AM   #150
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Seems like his feet/ankles can't take the pounding
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