It certainly sounds like Isiah Thomas is running the Knicks once again . . .

Lou Stefanic · 02-20-2011, 08:01 AM

Thomas’ influence grows within Knicks - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

Inbetweengame · 02-20-2011, 08:42 AM

Good maybe Joe Dumars can rip him off.

EJV · 02-20-2011, 10:15 AM

Found on RealGM

Isiah was asked by a reporter coverning yesterday's FIU basketball game whether he was involved in the negotiations in LA. Isiah stated that he had no comment but added, "I want the Knicks to do well, and I definitely want Jim to do well."

Vintage Zeke.

Mel Kiper Jr · 02-20-2011, 10:47 AM

The Pistons current roster looks like the Knicks teams that Isiah assembled. Just some food for thought.

EJV · 02-20-2011, 12:29 PM

Ifr management pulled the rug out from under a Rip Boozer deal, Joe gets a pass. Maybe then, he would not have done what was essentially an AA Wilcox deal. We lost a lot of Pistons DNA on that one.

At this point, I am beginning to believe that we would be better off with AA than Stuckey.

Lou Stefanic · 02-20-2011, 12:41 PM

Dolan seems to think that if Isiah was on board over the summer, the Knicks would've snagged LeBron. And moreover, he seems to credit Isiah for bagging Stoudemire.

IMO, the Knicks are about to give up way too much for Melo and Billups. I don't even know that Billups is even a good fit for the 7 seconds offense, but that being said, it's certainly possible that D'Antoni isn't around that much longer if Isiah wants him out.

Stefan S · 02-20-2011, 12:58 PM

D'Antoni should go anyway. His "run and gun" style did not even work in Poenix, with a much better team, and it will not work in NY. They are barely in the playoffs now. But he runs this team to the ground by forcing the starters to play too long. Hence the recent Amare injury. They will have more injuries and fatigue come playoffs, if they even make it that far.

This is not to defend Dolan's love for the guy with the ant-Midas touch. Thinking about it objectively, since Toronto's years, everything Zeke touches turns into shit, including an enormous mess in NY.

hack · 02-24-2011, 10:16 PM

Donnie Walsh might be a good candidate for Tom Gores' first hire.

Stefan S · 02-25-2011, 02:40 AM

I agree, Donnie is smart.
he was able to fix Zeke's mess rather quickly and was successful in other places.

But, first, I think it is premature to write Dumars out.
Some of this mistakes are just unimaginable to anyone with basketball sanity
(like Rip for Boozer, or even more so Tay for expiring and 1st).
It just has to b KD. No one else can be that stupid.

hack · 02-25-2011, 08:58 AM

Yeah. I wasn't suggesting to fire Joe, and I agree -- some of the stuff he's done is too stupid for us to not think someone else is controlling the levers. Still, it's frustrating when good young players like Perkins or Collison, who would be useful here, move on without us seemingly getting involved.

But if it's gotta be someone else, and Walsh isn't gonna retire, than that would be a good choice.

tin mad dog · 02-25-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan S

I agree, Donnie is smart.
he was able to fix Zeke's mess rather quickly and was successful in other places.

Of course some of the NY media don't think Isiah really ever left.

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02-20-2011, 08:42 AM	#2
Inbetweengame Water Boy Join Date: May 2009 Location: Taichung, Taiwan Posts: 931 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Good maybe Joe Dumars can rip him off.

02-20-2011, 10:15 AM	#3
EJV Water Boy Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 615 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Found on RealGM Isiah was asked by a reporter coverning yesterday's FIU basketball game whether he was involved in the negotiations in LA. Isiah stated that he had no comment but added, "I want the Knicks to do well, and I definitely want Jim to do well." Vintage Zeke.

02-20-2011, 10:47 AM	#4
Mel Kiper Jr Bench Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,349 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	The Pistons current roster looks like the Knicks teams that Isiah assembled. Just some food for thought.

02-20-2011, 12:29 PM	#5
EJV Water Boy Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 615 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Ifr management pulled the rug out from under a Rip Boozer deal, Joe gets a pass. Maybe then, he would not have done what was essentially an AA Wilcox deal. We lost a lot of Pistons DNA on that one. At this point, I am beginning to believe that we would be better off with AA than Stuckey.

02-20-2011, 12:41 PM	#6
Lou Stefanic Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,576 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Dolan seems to think that if Isiah was on board over the summer, the Knicks would've snagged LeBron. And moreover, he seems to credit Isiah for bagging Stoudemire. IMO, the Knicks are about to give up way too much for Melo and Billups. I don't even know that Billups is even a good fit for the 7 seconds offense, but that being said, it's certainly possible that D'Antoni isn't around that much longer if Isiah wants him out.

02-20-2011, 12:58 PM	#7
Stefan S Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 8,259 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	D'Antoni should go anyway. His "run and gun" style did not even work in Poenix, with a much better team, and it will not work in NY. They are barely in the playoffs now. But he runs this team to the ground by forcing the starters to play too long. Hence the recent Amare injury. They will have more injuries and fatigue come playoffs, if they even make it that far. This is not to defend Dolan's love for the guy with the ant-Midas touch. Thinking about it objectively, since Toronto's years, everything Zeke touches turns into shit, including an enormous mess in NY.

02-24-2011, 10:16 PM	#8
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Donnie Walsh might be a good candidate for Tom Gores' first hire.

02-25-2011, 02:40 AM	#9
Stefan S Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 8,259 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I agree, Donnie is smart. he was able to fix Zeke's mess rather quickly and was successful in other places. But, first, I think it is premature to write Dumars out. Some of this mistakes are just unimaginable to anyone with basketball sanity (like Rip for Boozer, or even more so Tay for expiring and 1st). It just has to b KD. No one else can be that stupid.

02-25-2011, 08:58 AM	#10
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Yeah. I wasn't suggesting to fire Joe, and I agree -- some of the stuff he's done is too stupid for us to not think someone else is controlling the levers. Still, it's frustrating when good young players like Perkins or Collison, who would be useful here, move on without us seemingly getting involved. But if it's gotta be someone else, and Walsh isn't gonna retire, than that would be a good choice.