Other Players/Other Teams - Page 140

Stefan S · 02-21-2012, 10:06 PM

Dallas give Marion, Beaubois, Terry, and the 1st rond pic (never mind Odom who is not there long run) for Allen and Garnett (neither in their long plans) . Why would they do it?

Kstat · 02-21-2012, 10:38 PM

because it clears up a shit load of cap space while still keeping them legit for this season.

They could amnesty haywood next summer, release brandan wright, and go into the offseason with only dirk and Domonique Jones under contract. They could easily sign both Deron and Dwight.

El Axe · 02-22-2012, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbill

3-teamer:

Boston gets: Gasol, Odom, Marion, Beaubois, Terry

Dallas gets: Allen and Garnett

Lakers get: Rondo, O'neal, and future Dallas 1st round pick

Who says no to that deal first?

This isn't that bad, but I don't see the Lakes doing it. Gasol is simply more valuable than Rondo. Not really even that close, IMO.

Dave Bing · 02-23-2012, 01:08 PM

Ouch. Simmons just waterboards the hell out of Danny Ainge for 5000 words on Grantland.

hack · 02-23-2012, 01:13 PM

Well his lapel notches are practically at his nipples. He deserves it.

hack · 02-23-2012, 01:42 PM

He's turning into Tom Friedman of sportswriting. I predict the conversion will be complete within 3 years.

Stefan S · 02-23-2012, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Bing

Ouch. Simmons just waterboards the hell out of Danny Ainge for 5000 words on Grantland.

Hilarious!

...but one snipet:

Quote:

Ordway: "Hold on, Tommy, I'm not close to being done yet. Our next guest also became the first NBA player to play an entire regular season out of shape, then use actual playoff rounds for his conditioning. In Game 7 of the NBA Finals, he was forced to play 35 minutes because of Kendrick Perkins' injury — he ran out of steam and the Lakers ended up with an 18-rebound advantage, one of the biggest reasons Boston lost that game. If he had cared even 10 percent more, the Celtics would have won the title that year. Then again, how can you care 10 percent more if you don't care at all? Thankfully, he retired and saved fans from watching him loaf for two more years while simultaneously killing Boston's cap. And now, he's loafing onto the stage … ladies and gentlemen, Rasheed Wallace!!!"

[We hear some scattered boos and jeers, but the members of the Celtics are inexplicably applauding. We see KG happily point to Rasheed.]

Wallace: "Danny, I'm mailing in this speech like I mailed in that season. Ball don't lie! Thank you!"

[Rasheed exits the stage laughing and heads back to the buffet table.]

Celebrating the Celtics' last good move - Grantland

hack · 02-23-2012, 02:06 PM

Sheed definitely stole money from the Celtics. One the one hand, since I hate the fucking Celtics, lol. On the other, since I wanted to see Sheed step up to the plate and prove he was principled, as well as to have a last laugh at David Stern, bummer. Sheed was crazy to start, but he got even crazier when Flip got here.

Jeff Hause · 02-23-2012, 02:07 PM

That's nonsense. He led the league in techs for ten years. We got him for nothing because Portland was desperate to lose him and Atlanta didn't want him. He was a joke before he got to Detroit. And he was good for Detroit for about three months...

hack · 02-23-2012, 02:09 PM

``Sheed was crazy to start, but he got even crazier when Flip got here.''

hack · 02-23-2012, 02:12 PM

In the end, Jeff, I'm saying you are right. Sheed was a crazy kid who was raised right, so to speak, by Dean Smith. He took to heart some of that UNC-way stuff and really believed in team basketball. That's why he worked better under LB than anyone else. And of course it didn't hurt that it was also possibly an excuse not to take on the mental challenge of carrying a team, which he could have. So he was always a mix of self indulgence and principles. I wanted to see the latter win out in the final chapter, but it didn't. The guy praised for being a good teammate didn't bother being a good teammate because he was too fat to go for a whole game, and that game was the Game 7 of the Finals. Shame on Sheed.

Jeff Hause · 02-23-2012, 02:12 PM

He was crazier in Portland. He was just a cancer in Detroit. That nutjob was supposed to lead the front line. He was just a sub in Boston. They lost because Perkins was hurt.

Jeff Hause · 02-23-2012, 02:14 PM

BTW, the Jeffrey Ross parody was dead-on, as was the Heinsohn stuff. Good job by Simmons...

Dave Bing · 02-23-2012, 02:25 PM

Ross is a hack but with Simmons such a Hollywood insider now, I was wondering the whole time if he was just needling one of his buddies.

Jeff Hause · 02-23-2012, 02:35 PM

True. Hmmmm, Ross as a buddy... That would make for a lot of depressing evenings in dive bars, whining about casting agents and comedy club waitresses...

jbill · 02-23-2012, 02:37 PM

Simmons writing hasn't been great lately, but his podcasts have been great lately. He's had a run of podcasts with Bird, Stein, Klosterman, Bob Ryan, and Mike Breen that I've been loving.

Jeff Hause · 02-23-2012, 02:41 PM

I'm just more into the comedy because I can't stand the Celtics...

hack · 02-23-2012, 02:42 PM

Podcast with your childhood sports hero = mindfuck. My desire to hone my craft would probably be non-existent too in that case.

Stefan S · 02-23-2012, 07:03 PM

So, revisiting briefly a previous discussion
what an incredible talent Sheed was
(for me, on talent, Duncan/KG level)
but also what a lazy bum.

He did not come across for anyone when it counted
e.g., the missed D assignment in the 5th game
and I do not even remember how he played in the 7th
most likely, because he was on the bench with fouls.

Then, next year, disqualified himself in the series with the Cavs
and when on the floor played rather shitty.

and also the Celts, but of course, f@c! the Celtics

papalawrence · 02-23-2012, 08:49 PM

Imho the Pistons do not win that championship without Sheed. He is what he is -- gotta take the bad with the good. Had Brown stayed I think they would have won one more. But I'll take the one. That was a helluva ride and even with my gimpy knee I think I jumped 20 ft in the air when Ben dunked an O-board on Shaq's big ass to seal the deal in game 5. Never forget that. Sheed could have been much more, I agree. But I am glad the Pistons had some of his "good."

Jeff Hause · 02-23-2012, 08:59 PM

The problem wasn't getting Rasheed -- we had nothing to lose in doing that, since we weren't giving up anything. The problem was keeping him too long. Ainge gave him all that money when he was a known cancer on a 30-win team. What could the Pistons have gotten for him before that happened?

hack · 02-23-2012, 09:07 PM

Agreed. I always thought that if you were going to have that guy you needed the right environment for him. I don't know that there was another coach out there that would have been right, though. Especially on that team, where the Big Four's sense of entitlement was crazy.

papalawrence · 02-23-2012, 09:38 PM

Heat thump the Knicks, no big surprise. Now 0-2 with Melo back in the line-up (also lost at home to Nets).

Lin this eve -- 1-11 from the floor, 8 pts, 3 assists, 8 TO's. Feel bad for Lin, but loving the losses with Melo in the line-up.

papalawrence · 02-23-2012, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Hause

The problem wasn't getting Rasheed -- we had nothing to lose in doing that, since we weren't giving up anything. The problem was keeping him too long. Ainge gave him all that money when he was a known cancer on a 30-win team. What could the Pistons have gotten for him before that happened?

Ah -- I didn't back track in the thread enough to catch the thrust. Perhaps Ainge figured the problem in Det wasn't Sheed, but the overall direction of the team (imho the problems were much larger than Sheed). But obviously it didn't work for the Celtics. Ainge's much larger blunder was trading away Perkins.

mn3 · 02-23-2012, 09:44 PM

Lin Interupted

1-11, 8 pts, 3 assists, 8 turnovers. Pretty much overwhelmed by the Heat tonight.

When the Heat focus their attention on a PG, that guy has to be really special to not look bad.

Jeff Hause · 02-23-2012, 09:55 PM

That's too bad. Hopefully the loss won't hurt the interest in Lin--it's been a lot of fun. I'd love to have a PG doing what Lin did over the last 10 or so games. He wouldn't be the first PG to look bad vs. Miami...

ghandi · 02-24-2012, 11:54 AM

Did LeBron cover Lin or their normal PGs?

Stefan S · 02-24-2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghandi

Did LeBron cover Lin or their normal PGs?

They were throwing all kind of stuff and different looks at Lin, including multiple double teams especially early in the game. It looked like Miami's game plan was to rattle and neutralize Lin and force others (Melo, Amare) to beat them.

It also looked like it worked. Right from the beginning Lin had multiple turnovers and never was able to find a comfort zone.

mn3 · 02-24-2012, 01:05 PM

Lin's not a great ballhandler. Nor is he a superior athlete. Teams that pressure him will make it difficult for him to be effective. I think he'll adjust somewhat, but the guy isn't 20 years old with several seasons to go before he works on his weaknesses and builds up his skill level. He's 23, and these are things he supposedly would already have been working on for the last few years. Those existing weakness could well be a red flag in terms of him ever being an elite PG.

I don't think he's ever going to be the type of PG who has the ball in his hands all the time, and who holds his dribble until he makes the key pass leading right to the score, ala Nash or Kidd or Rubio. Instead, he's going to need to be on a team on which he shares the playmaking duties. He does have superior first-tier offensive players around him like Melo and Amare who really should be the focus of the Knicks offense. And he is really good at leading his team in transition BB, which should be a strength for the Knicks.

I do think he can be a valuable player on strong teams. But we don't know yet how he's going to hold up when he doesn't have the crowds wildly behind him. As the hysteria over him settles down, the question is what Lin will be like over the course of a long season.

mn3 · 02-24-2012, 04:05 PM

Great article on Irving.

NBA -- His father laid out the plan, Kyrie Irving followed it - ESPN

Hobbs · 02-24-2012, 04:40 PM

I didn't watch the whole game, but I saw Kobe throw up a horrible shot 2 times and his man leak out for a wide open dunk while Kobe sulked. Just pathetic effort by him.

hack · 02-24-2012, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mn3

Lin's not a great ballhandler. Nor is he a superior athlete. Teams that pressure him will make it difficult for him to be effective. I think he'll adjust somewhat, but the guy isn't 20 years old with several seasons to go before he works on his weaknesses and builds up his skill level. He's 23, and these are things he supposedly would already have been working on for the last few years. Those existing weakness could well be a red flag in terms of him ever being an elite PG.

I don't think he's ever going to be the type of PG who has the ball in his hands all the time, and who holds his dribble until he makes the key pass leading right to the score, ala Nash or Kidd or Rubio. Instead, he's going to need to be on a team on which he shares the playmaking duties. He does have superior first-tier offensive players around him like Melo and Amare who really should be the focus of the Knicks offense. And he is really good at leading his team in transition BB, which should be a strength for the Knicks.

I do think he can be a valuable player on strong teams. But we don't know yet how he's going to hold up when he doesn't have the crowds wildly behind him. As the hysteria over him settles down, the question is what Lin will be like over the course of a long season.

Nope. He's not One of Those Players. And your logic is impeccable in that last paragraph.

(You might want to connect the dots between D'antoni and Nash, who you cite there.)

papalawrence · 02-24-2012, 06:41 PM

We also have to see how he handles a prolonged shooting slump. Can he keep his confidence up?

DYNOMITE · 02-24-2012, 06:51 PM

We also don't know how he will handle a torn ACL.

hack · 02-24-2012, 07:14 PM

Totally untested player. There's no proof that he'll be the same once the GOP convention is over.

Kstat · 02-24-2012, 07:23 PM

...sheed and world peace on the same team? What could possibly go wrong?

papalawrence · 02-24-2012, 10:52 PM

I think that would be the equivalent of crossing the streams.

Lou Stefanic · 02-24-2012, 11:43 PM

I'd like to take this moment to remind folks that Cheick Samb was cut from the Sioux Falls Skyforce in 2010 and currently mans the back-up center position for Mahram Tehran in the Iranian Super League.

hack · 02-25-2012, 08:20 AM

Take note -- that's not just any league. It's a SUPER league.

Lou Stefanic · 02-25-2012, 11:49 AM

I'm sorry, I don't mean to revisit this, but I find it absolutely hilarious that someone offered the notion that Lin is simply motivated by the crowds and the adoration. Look, the guy might not be as good as the hysteria, he might be in part a product of the system, but the dude has been cut by more than a few teams and was sleeping on his brother's couch a few weeks ago.

I think the motivation component is there and completely separate from any "adoration."

If only Austin Daye had an ounce of what this kid has.

Lou Stefanic · 02-25-2012, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hack

Take note -- that's not just any league. It's a SUPER league.

You might be making light of it, but when Dwight Howard leaves the Magic at the end of the season to join Mahram's rival Jahesh Tarabar Qom, the Samb vs. Howard conversation is going to be VERY interesting yet again.

hack · 02-25-2012, 01:18 PM

I once interviewed the head of AIG in Turkey. He did a Peace Corps stint in the 70s in Iran and loved it so much he stuck around and played in one of those leagues. Some great tales, including getting stoned off the court by rival fans. Some of the courts were outdoors. None of it could I get on the record though, which was a shame.

Jeff Hause · 02-29-2012, 10:26 PM

Wow! Kobe's got the Rip mask, now!

Dave Bing · 02-29-2012, 10:36 PM

Nauseating News from this week's Dirtbag File.

NBA Owner In Sex Scandal | The Smoking Gun

Jeff Hause · 02-29-2012, 10:45 PM

Sterling is Satan...

Mainevent · 02-29-2012, 11:02 PM

Wow . . . just . . wow. What a sleaze.

diecast75 · 03-01-2012, 12:19 AM

what a creep. only a $500 whore? spend a little more for a superstar!

Kstat · 03-01-2012, 12:28 AM

...or as Karen did, a little less for Bing....

hack · 03-01-2012, 07:08 AM

LOL!

There was a Davidson donor/tribute thingy at halftime of the Purdue game. KD spoke at it; she looks great for her age and maybe even were she a decade youngers. Good pull, Bing.

Dave Bing · 03-01-2012, 10:29 AM

I have always taken the ribbing here gracefully as I actually know the truth. And it sets me free.

02-21-2012, 10:38 PM	#6952
Kstat Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 6,245 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	because it clears up a shit load of cap space while still keeping them legit for this season. They could amnesty haywood next summer, release brandan wright, and go into the offseason with only dirk and Domonique Jones under contract. They could easily sign both Deron and Dwight. Last edited by Kstat; 02-21-2012 at 10:40 PM.

02-23-2012, 02:12 PM	#6961
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	In the end, Jeff, I'm saying you are right. Sheed was a crazy kid who was raised right, so to speak, by Dean Smith. He took to heart some of that UNC-way stuff and really believed in team basketball. That's why he worked better under LB than anyone else. And of course it didn't hurt that it was also possibly an excuse not to take on the mental challenge of carrying a team, which he could have. So he was always a mix of self indulgence and principles. I wanted to see the latter win out in the final chapter, but it didn't. The guy praised for being a good teammate didn't bother being a good teammate because he was too fat to go for a whole game, and that game was the Game 7 of the Finals. Shame on Sheed. Last edited by hack; 02-23-2012 at 02:14 PM.

02-23-2012, 02:12 PM	#6962
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,712 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	He was crazier in Portland. He was just a cancer in Detroit. That nutjob was supposed to lead the front line. He was just a sub in Boston. They lost because Perkins was hurt. Last edited by Jeff Hause; 02-23-2012 at 02:16 PM.

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02-21-2012, 10:06 PM	#6951
Stefan S Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 8,259 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Dallas give Marion, Beaubois, Terry, and the 1st rond pic (never mind Odom who is not there long run) for Allen and Garnett (neither in their long plans) . Why would they do it?

02-23-2012, 01:08 PM	#6954
Dave Bing Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,784 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Ouch. Simmons just waterboards the hell out of Danny Ainge for 5000 words on Grantland.

02-23-2012, 01:13 PM	#6955
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Well his lapel notches are practically at his nipples. He deserves it.

02-23-2012, 01:42 PM	#6956
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	He's turning into Tom Friedman of sportswriting. I predict the conversion will be complete within 3 years.

02-23-2012, 02:06 PM	#6958
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Sheed definitely stole money from the Celtics. One the one hand, since I hate the fucking Celtics, lol. On the other, since I wanted to see Sheed step up to the plate and prove he was principled, as well as to have a last laugh at David Stern, bummer. Sheed was crazy to start, but he got even crazier when Flip got here.

02-23-2012, 02:07 PM	#6959
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,712 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	That's nonsense. He led the league in techs for ten years. We got him for nothing because Portland was desperate to lose him and Atlanta didn't want him. He was a joke before he got to Detroit. And he was good for Detroit for about three months...

02-23-2012, 02:09 PM	#6960
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	``Sheed was crazy to start, but he got even crazier when Flip got here.''

02-23-2012, 02:14 PM	#6963
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,712 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	BTW, the Jeffrey Ross parody was dead-on, as was the Heinsohn stuff. Good job by Simmons...

02-23-2012, 02:25 PM	#6964
Dave Bing Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,784 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Ross is a hack but with Simmons such a Hollywood insider now, I was wondering the whole time if he was just needling one of his buddies.

02-23-2012, 02:35 PM	#6965
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,712 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	True. Hmmmm, Ross as a buddy... That would make for a lot of depressing evenings in dive bars, whining about casting agents and comedy club waitresses...

02-23-2012, 02:37 PM	#6966
jbill Water Boy Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 226 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Simmons writing hasn't been great lately, but his podcasts have been great lately. He's had a run of podcasts with Bird, Stein, Klosterman, Bob Ryan, and Mike Breen that I've been loving.

02-23-2012, 02:41 PM	#6967
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,712 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	I'm just more into the comedy because I can't stand the Celtics...

02-23-2012, 02:42 PM	#6968
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Podcast with your childhood sports hero = mindfuck. My desire to hone my craft would probably be non-existent too in that case.

02-23-2012, 07:03 PM	#6969
Stefan S Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 8,259 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	So, revisiting briefly a previous discussion what an incredible talent Sheed was (for me, on talent, Duncan/KG level) but also what a lazy bum. He did not come across for anyone when it counted e.g., the missed D assignment in the 5th game and I do not even remember how he played in the 7th most likely, because he was on the bench with fouls. Then, next year, disqualified himself in the series with the Cavs and when on the floor played rather shitty. and also the Celts, but of course, f@c! the Celtics

02-23-2012, 08:49 PM	#6970
papalawrence Water Boy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 859 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Imho the Pistons do not win that championship without Sheed. He is what he is -- gotta take the bad with the good. Had Brown stayed I think they would have won one more. But I'll take the one. That was a helluva ride and even with my gimpy knee I think I jumped 20 ft in the air when Ben dunked an O-board on Shaq's big ass to seal the deal in game 5. Never forget that. Sheed could have been much more, I agree. But I am glad the Pistons had some of his "good."

02-23-2012, 08:59 PM	#6971
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,712 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	The problem wasn't getting Rasheed -- we had nothing to lose in doing that, since we weren't giving up anything. The problem was keeping him too long. Ainge gave him all that money when he was a known cancer on a 30-win team. What could the Pistons have gotten for him before that happened?

02-23-2012, 09:07 PM	#6972
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Agreed. I always thought that if you were going to have that guy you needed the right environment for him. I don't know that there was another coach out there that would have been right, though. Especially on that team, where the Big Four's sense of entitlement was crazy.

02-23-2012, 09:38 PM	#6973
papalawrence Water Boy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 859 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Heat thump the Knicks, no big surprise. Now 0-2 with Melo back in the line-up (also lost at home to Nets). Lin this eve -- 1-11 from the floor, 8 pts, 3 assists, 8 TO's. Feel bad for Lin, but loving the losses with Melo in the line-up.

02-23-2012, 09:44 PM	#6975
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	Lin Interupted 1-11, 8 pts, 3 assists, 8 turnovers. Pretty much overwhelmed by the Heat tonight. When the Heat focus their attention on a PG, that guy has to be really special to not look bad.

02-23-2012, 09:55 PM	#6976
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,712 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	That's too bad. Hopefully the loss won't hurt the interest in Lin--it's been a lot of fun. I'd love to have a PG doing what Lin did over the last 10 or so games. He wouldn't be the first PG to look bad vs. Miami...

02-24-2012, 11:54 AM	#6977
ghandi Water Boy Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 878 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Did LeBron cover Lin or their normal PGs?

02-24-2012, 01:05 PM	#6979
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	Lin's not a great ballhandler. Nor is he a superior athlete. Teams that pressure him will make it difficult for him to be effective. I think he'll adjust somewhat, but the guy isn't 20 years old with several seasons to go before he works on his weaknesses and builds up his skill level. He's 23, and these are things he supposedly would already have been working on for the last few years. Those existing weakness could well be a red flag in terms of him ever being an elite PG. I don't think he's ever going to be the type of PG who has the ball in his hands all the time, and who holds his dribble until he makes the key pass leading right to the score, ala Nash or Kidd or Rubio. Instead, he's going to need to be on a team on which he shares the playmaking duties. He does have superior first-tier offensive players around him like Melo and Amare who really should be the focus of the Knicks offense. And he is really good at leading his team in transition BB, which should be a strength for the Knicks. I do think he can be a valuable player on strong teams. But we don't know yet how he's going to hold up when he doesn't have the crowds wildly behind him. As the hysteria over him settles down, the question is what Lin will be like over the course of a long season.

02-24-2012, 04:05 PM	#6980
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	Great article on Irving. NBA -- His father laid out the plan, Kyrie Irving followed it - ESPN

02-24-2012, 04:40 PM	#6981
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I didn't watch the whole game, but I saw Kobe throw up a horrible shot 2 times and his man leak out for a wide open dunk while Kobe sulked. Just pathetic effort by him.

02-24-2012, 06:41 PM	#6983
papalawrence Water Boy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 859 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	We also have to see how he handles a prolonged shooting slump. Can he keep his confidence up?

02-24-2012, 06:51 PM	#6984
DYNOMITE Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,804 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	We also don't know how he will handle a torn ACL.

02-24-2012, 07:14 PM	#6985
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,065 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Totally untested player. There's no proof that he'll be the same once the GOP convention is over.

02-24-2012, 07:23 PM	#6986
Kstat Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 6,245 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	...sheed and world peace on the same team? What could possibly go wrong?

02-24-2012, 10:52 PM	#6987
papalawrence Water Boy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 859 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I think that would be the equivalent of crossing the streams.

02-24-2012, 11:43 PM	#6988
Lou Stefanic Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,576 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	I'd like to take this moment to remind folks that Cheick Samb was cut from the Sioux Falls Skyforce in 2010 and currently mans the back-up center position for Mahram Tehran in the Iranian Super League.