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The King · 01-04-2012, 05:18 PM

A coach can work miracles. Hopefully we got the right guy. I thought he was CLEARLY the best option available last year.

Money23 · 01-05-2012, 03:58 AM

I like how pissed off he was at the lack of defense during the Chicago game. He isn't going to let these guys slack.

Mel Kiper Jr · 01-05-2012, 12:29 PM

I like that he seems organized. He wants guys to have roles.

He's kind of like a manager who comes into an underperforming company and puts a framework in place. That will help us get some extra wins.

He also seems to reward hustle and defense from guys like Wilkens.

Money23 · 01-06-2012, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mel Kiper Jr

I like that he seems organized. He wants guys to have roles.

He's kind of like a manager who comes into an underperforming company and puts a framework in place. That will help us get some extra wins.

He also seems to reward hustle and defense from guys like Wilkens.

Very good points.

mn3 · 01-11-2012, 11:46 AM

Assuming we're going to attempt to build around Knight and Monroe and that Stuckey and Gordon are each going to be a core player on our team at least for the next couple years, and that JJ fits in there somewhere, it seems to me that we're going to stinking pretty badly this season. So this season is all about development of our systems on O and D, and the development of those four guys, and a top four pick in the 2012 draft.

In a couple years, Knight seems to have the ability and aptitude to be a terrific point guard. Monroe is pretty clearly turning into a very fine big man, our first true back to the basket post up player in my memory and a heck of an all around player. That's hopeful to me.

Perhaps Daye will come on and prove to be a core guy - if he does, I believe he'll be a 20 ppg scorer in this league. As the team gets more familiar with the new systems, and Stuckey gets back, maybe Daye will come along too. We'll see. Perhaps Singler will develop into a good player in Spain.

If Frank can keep control of this, and I'm encouraged by what I know about him and his approach, these guys will turn into much better pros. By next season, I expect to see better play from this same group - and we should be adding a great young talent (hopefully a big man), who can have a better chance to flourish with a young squad who grew from what is going to be an incredibly rough 2011-12 season.

RodimusPrime · 01-11-2012, 11:48 AM

What in God's name has Daye shown you to make you think he can be a 20ppg scorer? All he can do is hit jumpers and he's not even good at that.

ThaMaestro · 01-11-2012, 11:53 AM

Daye has regressed to a D-leaguer this season. He's just a waste of a roster spot at the moment.

mn3 · 01-11-2012, 11:55 AM

I know he's sucked so far - but there's no doubt the kid's a great shooter and is very talented. My questions with him are whether he has the attitude and the ability to work hard enough to fulfil his potential. I've never liked his body language when things aren't going well for him. So, I've got questions about him short, mid and long term.

But talent isn't the issue with him. He has great potential.

Mel Kiper Jr · 01-11-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mn3

I know he's sucked so far - but there's no doubt the kid's a great shooter and is very talented. My questions with him are whether he has the attitude and the ability to work hard enough to fulfil his potential. I've never liked his body language when things aren't going well for him. So, I've got questions about him short, mid and long term.

But talent isn't the issue with him. He has great potential.

I don't like how he is on the bench smiling and laughing while he is getting a DNP - CD.

I think talent is an issue with him. He just doesn't have the instincts.

El Axe · 01-11-2012, 01:04 PM

Daye seems too slow and weak to play in the NBA. You can be one or the other and be a potential starter, but not both.

He reminds me of Brad Sellers.

mn3 · 01-11-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by El Axe

Daye seems too slow and weak to play in the NBA. You can be one or the other and be a potential starter, but not both.

He reminds me of Brad Sellers.

Yechh - I hope not. Sellers was awful. But I do think Daye's a lot more talented than Sellers ever was.

Daye developing into a great scorer and offensive player, (starter would be optimal of course, but right now I'd take it if he'd be a great bench player) would make rebuilding this club a lot easier.

Since we seem to have really good coaches now, hopefully Daye will develop.

Billl · 01-11-2012, 01:13 PM

The really good coach has nailed Daye to the bench most games because of his lack of effort on D.

Daye has all sorts of skill, but he has an equally long list of flaws.

Big Jerm · 01-11-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mel Kiper Jr

I don't like how he is on the bench smiling and laughing while he is getting a DNP - CD.

I think talent is an issue with him. He just doesn't have the instincts.

I'm with Mel. Last season, I saw reason for hope that he could at least be a very good scorer off the bench, but when you take away his scoring, he's pretty useless, and that's where we seem to be right now. Shooting slumps are understandable, but right now, he just looks like he doesn't give a crap, and that's unacceptable for any team.

Whiteman · 01-11-2012, 01:21 PM

Daye has been a huge bust this year. Sad

DYNOMITE · 01-11-2012, 01:51 PM

If Macklin becomes the 20pt, 12 reb, 3 block player I think he can, then this team won't need Daye to be superstar.

mn3 · 01-11-2012, 01:54 PM

Ron (Detroit, MI )

Chad, can I get your thoughts on Pistons center Greg Monroe? The guy looks stellar, and an all-star as well.
Chad Ford(1:18 PM)

He's the one bright spot on an otherwise dim Pistons team at the moment. It's still very early, but hard to argue someone else besides Wall should've gone ahead of him in the Draft. Favors could eventually surpass him because he's a much better athlete. Paul George has a chance to be great. Evan Turner is playing MUCH better this year. But Monroe is special. Brandon Knight should be pretty good too down the road. It's not going to be pretty for a while, but the Pistons do have some nice pieces going forward.

The King · 01-11-2012, 05:48 PM

I like Paul George a lot. He has some serious game.

Mel Kiper Jr · 01-11-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mn3

Ron (Detroit, MI )

Chad, can I get your thoughts on Pistons center Greg Monroe? The guy looks stellar, and an all-star as well.
Chad Ford(1:18 PM)

He's the one bright spot on an otherwise dim Pistons team at the moment. It's still very early, but hard to argue someone else besides Wall should've gone ahead of him in the Draft. Favors could eventually surpass him because he's a much better athlete. Paul George has a chance to be great. Evan Turner is playing MUCH better this year. But Monroe is special. Brandon Knight should be pretty good too down the road. It's not going to be pretty for a while, but the Pistons do have some nice pieces going forward.

He can't be right...all of the forum draft gurus wanted Cousins. Picking Arron Afflalo was bad too...

Mel Kiper Jr · 01-11-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DYNOMITE

If Macklin becomes the 20pt, 12 reb, 3 block player I think he can, then this team won't need Daye to be superstar.

I see Singler coming back from Europe as a 25 ppg scorer, 5 reb, 4 assist guy.

The question becomes, will we be able to have all of these 20+ ppg scorers co-exist.

Note: I have yet to reveal until now how Alex Acker comes back as a 10 ppg, 12 assist, 3 steal point-guard off the bench.

Sometime later I will post my thoughts on Cheick Samb.

Stefan S · 01-17-2012, 04:53 PM

Detroit Pistons: Why Greg Monroe Is the Best Up-and-Coming NBA Center | Bleacher Report

Jay Wierenga gives Greg Monroe lots of love.
I think we should link that column to this thread.

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01-04-2012, 05:18 PM	#51
The King Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,900 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	A coach can work miracles. Hopefully we got the right guy. I thought he was CLEARLY the best option available last year.

01-05-2012, 03:58 AM	#52
Money23 Sixth Man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: F-f-f-f-Flintown Posts: 3,941 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I like how pissed off he was at the lack of defense during the Chicago game. He isn't going to let these guys slack.

01-05-2012, 12:29 PM	#53
Mel Kiper Jr Bench Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,349 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I like that he seems organized. He wants guys to have roles. He's kind of like a manager who comes into an underperforming company and puts a framework in place. That will help us get some extra wins. He also seems to reward hustle and defense from guys like Wilkens.

01-11-2012, 11:46 AM	#55
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	Assuming we're going to attempt to build around Knight and Monroe and that Stuckey and Gordon are each going to be a core player on our team at least for the next couple years, and that JJ fits in there somewhere, it seems to me that we're going to stinking pretty badly this season. So this season is all about development of our systems on O and D, and the development of those four guys, and a top four pick in the 2012 draft. In a couple years, Knight seems to have the ability and aptitude to be a terrific point guard. Monroe is pretty clearly turning into a very fine big man, our first true back to the basket post up player in my memory and a heck of an all around player. That's hopeful to me. Perhaps Daye will come on and prove to be a core guy - if he does, I believe he'll be a 20 ppg scorer in this league. As the team gets more familiar with the new systems, and Stuckey gets back, maybe Daye will come along too. We'll see. Perhaps Singler will develop into a good player in Spain. If Frank can keep control of this, and I'm encouraged by what I know about him and his approach, these guys will turn into much better pros. By next season, I expect to see better play from this same group - and we should be adding a great young talent (hopefully a big man), who can have a better chance to flourish with a young squad who grew from what is going to be an incredibly rough 2011-12 season.

01-11-2012, 11:48 AM	#56
RodimusPrime Water Boy Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 984 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	What in God's name has Daye shown you to make you think he can be a 20ppg scorer? All he can do is hit jumpers and he's not even good at that.

01-11-2012, 11:53 AM	#57
ThaMaestro Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flinttown Representin' Posts: 1,394 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Daye has regressed to a D-leaguer this season. He's just a waste of a roster spot at the moment.

01-11-2012, 11:55 AM	#58
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	I know he's sucked so far - but there's no doubt the kid's a great shooter and is very talented. My questions with him are whether he has the attitude and the ability to work hard enough to fulfil his potential. I've never liked his body language when things aren't going well for him. So, I've got questions about him short, mid and long term. But talent isn't the issue with him. He has great potential.

01-11-2012, 01:04 PM	#60
El Axe Water Boy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 698 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Daye seems too slow and weak to play in the NBA. You can be one or the other and be a potential starter, but not both. He reminds me of Brad Sellers.

01-11-2012, 01:13 PM	#62
Billl Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,382 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	The really good coach has nailed Daye to the bench most games because of his lack of effort on D. Daye has all sorts of skill, but he has an equally long list of flaws.

01-11-2012, 01:21 PM	#64
Whiteman Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,666 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Daye has been a huge bust this year. Sad

01-11-2012, 01:51 PM	#65
DYNOMITE Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,804 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	If Macklin becomes the 20pt, 12 reb, 3 block player I think he can, then this team won't need Daye to be superstar.

01-11-2012, 01:54 PM	#66
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,502 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	Ron (Detroit, MI ) Chad, can I get your thoughts on Pistons center Greg Monroe? The guy looks stellar, and an all-star as well. Chad Ford(1:18 PM) He's the one bright spot on an otherwise dim Pistons team at the moment. It's still very early, but hard to argue someone else besides Wall should've gone ahead of him in the Draft. Favors could eventually surpass him because he's a much better athlete. Paul George has a chance to be great. Evan Turner is playing MUCH better this year. But Monroe is special. Brandon Knight should be pretty good too down the road. It's not going to be pretty for a while, but the Pistons do have some nice pieces going forward.

01-11-2012, 05:48 PM	#67
The King Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,900 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I like Paul George a lot. He has some serious game.

01-17-2012, 04:53 PM	#70
Stefan S Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 8,259 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Detroit Pistons: Why Greg Monroe Is the Best Up-and-Coming NBA Center \| Bleacher Report Jay Wierenga gives Greg Monroe lots of love. I think we should link that column to this thread.