Knicks at Pistons : Knickabocker please!

Hobbs · 01-07-2012, 08:07 PM

Will Bynum is ass.

Hobbs · 01-07-2012, 08:09 PM

Moose is turning into a franchise player.

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 08:09 PM

any links?

Hobbs · 01-07-2012, 08:11 PM

Everyone is going to be watching the Lions.

Hobbs · 01-07-2012, 08:12 PM

Knicks doubleteaming Moose on the catch. Wow!

Inbetweengame · 01-07-2012, 08:12 PM

I for one sure won't be. I want to beat the Knicks.

Inbetweengame · 01-07-2012, 08:14 PM

Damn no working game link.

Hobbs · 01-07-2012, 08:15 PM

Touchdown Lions.

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:17 PM

BG is money

Hobbs · 01-07-2012, 08:17 PM

We are getting absolutely slaughtered on the boards so far. We were only able to turn it around a bit when the guards starting crashing the D boards.

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:17 PM

Daye is in street clothes. Utah trade possibility?

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 08:18 PM

Redwings down 3 nothing in 2nd....

Hobbs · 01-07-2012, 08:18 PM

Doubt there's a trade. His ankle is probably in bad shape.

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 08:18 PM

I lied 3-1 now

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 08:24 PM

Fumble lions ball

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:24 PM

Tough to watch

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 08:24 PM

so we go tBen G back but how many players do we have active tonight....we are still out stuck, now daye and CV?

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:28 PM

I still appreciate BG effort to attack the basket. Couldnt say the same about JJ missing the bunny

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 08:30 PM

we look like we are not to interested....

Inbetweengame · 01-07-2012, 08:30 PM

Ouch. I really can't stand the Knicks.

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:32 PM

Cant earn respect by playing like that Detroit

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:33 PM

22-4 run? Whats up coach Frank?

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:34 PM

Now tay is missing bunny

Inbetweengame · 01-07-2012, 08:35 PM

We're getting our asses handed to us.

Kstat · 01-07-2012, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdwtr

22-4 run? Whats up coach Frank?

Whats he supposed to do? We're small as shit and block no shots. Any team that attacks us at the rim will have a field day.

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 08:37 PM

we are not quiting that is for sure...we look back into it but we need to stop the TO

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 08:38 PM

red wings down 1 now....3-2

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kstat

Whats he supposed to do? We're small as shit and block no shots. Any team that attacks us at the rim will have a field day.

Yes thats true. I think a time-out to cool things down would probably help though

zdwtr · 01-07-2012, 08:43 PM

Work in progress.

Turn over = no progress.

No excuse.

papalawrence · 01-07-2012, 08:57 PM

Down 22 at half at home to the Knicks.

Ouch.

Top 5 pick here we come..........

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 09:00 PM

lions up 14 - 7

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 09:01 PM

yeah this game is not going in the right direction....but was worried about being undermanned in this game

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 09:02 PM

nice to watch monroe develop into a well rounded post player

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 09:09 PM

3-3 red wings...

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 09:19 PM

what team is gordon playing for he seems to passing to the wrong jersey alot

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 09:34 PM

hey look another TO by gordon

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 09:35 PM

that is 8 by Gordon...

fredsue · 01-07-2012, 09:43 PM

2 more for a double double

Orwellian O. · 01-07-2012, 09:58 PM

Terrible...how long is Stuckey out?

Mel Kiper Jr · 01-08-2012, 01:40 AM

It's amazing how we looked really bad, then decent for 2 games, then really bad again.

Santos · 01-08-2012, 04:12 AM

Anything to do with the fact that Stuckey was out? We're thin in talent, so when one of our best players is missing, I think we'll really feel it badly.

tin mad dog · 01-08-2012, 04:16 AM

Heck of a game thread! I'm guessing we lost.

tin mad dog · 01-08-2012, 04:19 AM

Wow. 1-9 FG. 2-4 FT, 1 dime, 1 TO for Willie B, against Ol' Man Bibby?

Kstat · 01-08-2012, 06:30 AM

that's the will bynum effect. He's awful.

Get used to it, people. We're going to lose a lot of games this year...but we'll be better for it next year.

Keep that NCAA scouting thread rolling.

The King · 01-08-2012, 09:20 AM

We miss Stuckey. He's better than people give him credit for. Hell, he's the only big guard we have. We miss his physicality on both ends.

Stefan S · 01-08-2012, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The King

We miss Stuckey. He's better than people give him credit for. Hell, he's the only big guard we have. We miss his physicality on both ends.

I agree.

WE missed him at the beginning of the season, when arguably we were the worst team in the league, and we miss him now, when we suck again.

mn3 · 01-08-2012, 12:50 PM

In a league that just kills teams that turnover the ball a lot, we're a young team transitioning to a rookie point guard and we're going to turnover the ball a lot. Add to that our major lack of size, and we're going to see a ton of games where we're just maimed on the defensive boards - and that weakness will be made a lot worse by our inability to run our offense in a balanced controlled way, leading to way more situations where we cannot set up defensively the way we want to.

I think we've got a stud in Monroe, and a future top-flight PG in Knight. I think we've got a very fine energy player in JJ; a guy who will give us really fine all-around play for a lot of years. IMO, that's three fine guys to build around. Monroe is developing into an excellent low post center. He's much better than I thought he'd be this soon in his career at that aspect of the game. When we do have an efficient offense in a few years as Knight matures and the team concept is established and the players become young veterans, Monroe will really shine, since he's an outstanding passer and his offensive game might be one of the best around for a big man. Combined with Knight, we'll have two very high IQ players to run our team. Any team with a top PG and a fine low post all-around center, has a potentially bright future.

With JJ, he's just a nice piece that will add to any good team. My open questions are how Stuckey, Daye and Gordon fit into that future. Stuckey, I think, is a force in this league - one of the toughest guys to guard in the game because he's so outstanding at driving to the basket and getting and-1 opportunities. Getting your points at the free throw line is the best way to slow the other team down, and allow your team to set up on defense, and it builds up fouls on the other team's big men. I predict that the Knight, Stuckey combination will be great for us over a lot of years.

Daye and Gordon should each fit into this team in the future. Gordon seems to be getting his game back, but let's face it, the guy is totally built to be a sixth man and not a starter. Daye is a dynamic scorer - and right now, he's the guy on the team I have the most concerns about. Will he or won't he develop well with us? Will he earn PT on this team.

Look, it's pretty clear we're going to suck this season. IMO, the absolute key to this team having a great future is how the coaching staff handles all this. Will they be able to develop the young guys on this team so they have good team habits while we are getting clobbered? Or will the losing ways get out of control such that these young players develop lousy and selfish habits? If it's the former, than when we add top picks in 2012 and 2013 (because it's going to take a few years to totally turn this around), we could have a core that looks as good as any of the best young teams. I think that Knight and Monroe are such good kids, high IQ guys and hard working pros, that it's more likely that this season of losing and great coaching will be a plus for them and a win for the team going forward. As those guys emerge into the team leaders, the other core guys on the team have a chance to develop well, too.

That's about the only reason why I am interested in following this team - I can see a possible light at the end of the tunnel.

FadedMario · 01-08-2012, 01:10 PM

papalawrence · 01-08-2012, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kstat

that's the will bynum effect. He's awful.

Get used to it, people. We're going to lose a lot of games this year...but we'll be better for it next year.

Keep that NCAA scouting thread rolling.

Yep. I already looked at the records of the NBA bottom dwellers. Washington (almost posted "bullets") must really suck. I want the Pistons to hustle and to see development in Monroe and JJ and Knight (losing hope for Daye as ever being more than a role player).........and I guess at some point I'll start hoping for losses. Ping pong balls baby!!

FadedMario · 01-08-2012, 01:23 PM

Hasheem Thabeet -

With Patrick Patterson active, Thabeet returned to the inactive list.

Spin: Thabeet has plenty of size, but he's still a project at this point.

ESPN Fantasy Projection: The D-League isn't where you'd like to find the former No. 2 overall selection in the NBA draft, but that's exactly where we've seen Thabeet during much of his two-year career. Already given up on by the team that drafted him, Thabeet will have a hard time breaking into the Rockets' lineup, as he is still extremely inexperienced on the offensive end and is an asset only for his shot-blocking skills.

We should try to get this guy even if he is a project.

01-07-2012, 08:07 PM	#1
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Knicks at Pistons : Knickabocker please! Will Bynum is ass.

01-08-2012, 04:16 AM	#42
tin mad dog Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island City, NY Posts: 9,787 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Heck of a game thread! I'm guessing we lost. __________________ 2011- Oh Bismack, where art thou?

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tin mad dog Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island City, NY Posts: 9,787 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Wow. 1-9 FG. 2-4 FT, 1 dime, 1 TO for Willie B, against Ol' Man Bibby? __________________ 2011- Oh Bismack, where art thou?

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01-07-2012, 08:09 PM	#2
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Moose is turning into a franchise player.

01-07-2012, 08:09 PM	#3
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	any links?

01-07-2012, 08:11 PM	#4
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Everyone is going to be watching the Lions.

01-07-2012, 08:12 PM	#5
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Knicks doubleteaming Moose on the catch. Wow!

01-07-2012, 08:12 PM	#6
Inbetweengame Water Boy Join Date: May 2009 Location: Taichung, Taiwan Posts: 931 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I for one sure won't be. I want to beat the Knicks.

01-07-2012, 08:14 PM	#7
Inbetweengame Water Boy Join Date: May 2009 Location: Taichung, Taiwan Posts: 931 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Damn no working game link.

01-07-2012, 08:15 PM	#8
Hobbs Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,006 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Touchdown Lions.

01-07-2012, 08:17 PM	#9
zdwtr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 95 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	BG is money

01-07-2012, 08:18 PM	#12
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Redwings down 3 nothing in 2nd....

01-07-2012, 08:24 PM	#15
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Fumble lions ball

01-07-2012, 08:28 PM	#18
zdwtr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 95 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I still appreciate BG effort to attack the basket. Couldnt say the same about JJ missing the bunny

01-07-2012, 08:30 PM	#19
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	we look like we are not to interested....

01-07-2012, 08:32 PM	#21
zdwtr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 95 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Cant earn respect by playing like that Detroit

01-07-2012, 08:33 PM	#22
zdwtr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 95 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	22-4 run? Whats up coach Frank?

01-07-2012, 08:34 PM	#23
zdwtr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 95 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Now tay is missing bunny

01-07-2012, 08:35 PM	#24
Inbetweengame Water Boy Join Date: May 2009 Location: Taichung, Taiwan Posts: 931 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	We're getting our asses handed to us.

01-07-2012, 08:37 PM	#26
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	we are not quiting that is for sure...we look back into it but we need to stop the TO

01-07-2012, 08:38 PM	#27
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	red wings down 1 now....3-2

01-07-2012, 08:43 PM	#29
zdwtr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 95 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Work in progress. Turn over = no progress. No excuse.

01-07-2012, 08:57 PM	#30
papalawrence Water Boy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 859 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Down 22 at half at home to the Knicks. Ouch. Top 5 pick here we come..........

01-07-2012, 09:00 PM	#31
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	lions up 14 - 7

01-07-2012, 09:01 PM	#32
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	yeah this game is not going in the right direction....but was worried about being undermanned in this game

01-07-2012, 09:02 PM	#33
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	nice to watch monroe develop into a well rounded post player

01-07-2012, 09:09 PM	#34
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	3-3 red wings...

01-07-2012, 09:19 PM	#35
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	what team is gordon playing for he seems to passing to the wrong jersey alot

01-07-2012, 09:34 PM	#36
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	hey look another TO by gordon

01-07-2012, 09:35 PM	#37
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	that is 8 by Gordon...

01-07-2012, 09:43 PM	#38
fredsue Bench Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,487 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	2 more for a double double

01-07-2012, 09:58 PM	#39
Orwellian O. Bench Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,819 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Terrible...how long is Stuckey out?

01-08-2012, 01:40 AM	#40
Mel Kiper Jr Bench Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,349 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	It's amazing how we looked really bad, then decent for 2 games, then really bad again.