[Kstat]

The starting backcourt of Brandon Knight and Rodney Stuckey is now 8-9 on the season after a 1-7 beginning that can largely be attributed to chemistry issues, and Stuckey's bad groin.

[Jeff Hause]

It's going to be hard to get real impact players in the near future, but it'll be interesting to see how much Knight can expand his game. That's something to watch, anyway. Outside of him and Monroe (and maybe Stuckey, if he doesn't revert to being an a-hole), I don't really care if anybody else comes back.

[tin mad dog]

I'm in that boat too. I like JJ and hope he stays but what he's giving right now is fairly replaceable.

[Hobbs]

I think Jerebko is legit. He's not a starter, but he's a guy every team needs and he's signed to a good deal. If Stuckey is able to finish out this whole season at the level he's been playing lately then he sneaks into the keeper category for me too.

We need at least one trade this year to put us in a better position going forward. Salary relief, extra draft pick, or a young prospect. Something.

[Jeff Hause]

Yeah. JJ tries. Daye, CV, etc., I could live without.

[Kstat]

Jerebko is valuable as a backup combo forward. He's replaceable, but not with just anybody.

[DYNOMITE]

Originally Posted by Hobbs

I think Jerebko is legit. He's not a starter, but he's a guy every team needs and he's signed to a good deal. If Stuckey is able to finish out this whole season at the level he's been playing lately then he sneaks into the keeper category for me too.

We need at least one trade this year to put us in a better position going forward. Salary relief, extra draft pick, or a young prospect. Something.

This, especially the trade part.

[DYNOMITE]

I know dipshit coach won't play him, but I still think Orlando is the perfect place for Charlie V.

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by DYNOMITE

I know dipshit coach won't play him, but I still think Orlando is the perfect place for Charlie V.

makes sense because they need to spread the floor to open the lane for Howard.
Not sure Stan is a ds coach, though.

[DYNOMITE]

Originally Posted by Stefan S

makes sense because they need to spread the floor to open the lane for Howard.
Not sure Stan is a ds coach, though.

Pretty sure he is.

[Orwellian O.]

Originally Posted by Hobbs

I think Jerebko is legit. He's not a starter, but he's a guy every team needs and he's signed to a good deal. If Stuckey is able to finish out this whole season at the level he's been playing lately then he sneaks into the keeper category for me too.

We need at least one trade this year to put us in a better position going forward. Salary relief, extra draft pick, or a young prospect. Something.

What more does Stuckey have to do? He has been putting up monster numbers and has played most of this season on a bum mid-section.

[Jeff Hause]

Monster numbers? He's averaging 15 points a game on 42% shooting. That's up from last year, but he's worse in everything else.

I guess that's okay if Knight elevates his play, so the defense worries about somebody in the back court. But one of those two has to take the next step.

But what more Stuckey really has to do is sulk less, attend practices, and go in when the coach tells him. Iverson scored 30 a game and was dumped for that...

[hack]

Right on. Keep playing hard and STFU. Do it for an extended period of time.

[Orwellian O.]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hause

Monster numbers? He's averaging 15 points a game on 42% shooting. That's up from last year, but he's worse in everything else.

I guess that's okay if Knight elevates his play, so the defense worries about somebody in the back court. But one of those two has to take the next step.

But what more Stuckey really has to do is sulk less, attend practices, and go in when the coach tells him. Iverson scored 30 a game and was dumped for that...

He has been putting up good numbers over the past couple weeks.

His average was hurt while he was hurt (and Coach Frank was fiddling with the lineup) but he still played tough and put in more effort than any other Piston.

[Jeff Hause]

Keep doing it, then. Historically, it goes away.

I'm so sick of talking about whether Stuckey will put it all together or not, anyway. Five loooooooooooooooooong years. At least Knight is a new topic...

[hack]

Not initially Stuckey's fault that it's been 5 long years. It's been a stupid amount of coaches too and a pretty crappy set of teammates too.

[Mel Kiper Jr]

Originally Posted by Kstat

The starting backcourt of Brandon Knight and Rodney Stuckey is now 8-9 on the season after a 1-7 beginning that can largely be attributed to chemistry issues, and Stuckey's bad groin.

Just imagine what our record would be if they weren't intentionally tanking!

[Mel Kiper Jr]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hause

Keep doing it, then. Historically, it goes away.

I'm so sick of talking about whether Stuckey will put it all together or not, anyway. Five loooooooooooooooooong years. At least Knight is a new topic...

So...ummm...How good is Samb going to look next to Monroe?

[Hobbs]

Stuck just needs to keep doing it for the whole season. He's had some amazing stretches before. Consistency is his biggest demon.

[B.I.G.]

Originally Posted by FadedMario

@ESPNStatsInfo
Quote:
Elias Says: Brandon Knight @BrandonKnight12 is 1st rookie to have 20 Pts, 10 Ast and 0 TO in a game since... Steve Francis in 1999

That's not saying much.

[Kstat]

13 years? I'd say that's saying a lot.

[mn3]

Is B.I.G. serious about not liking Knight?

[Money23]

Not to mention, Stevie Franchise was the shit for a few years.

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by Money23

Not to mention, Stevie Franchise was the shit for a few years.

you mean,
Stevie Franchise was the shit for a few years.

[Lou Stefanic]

Originally Posted by B.I.G.

That's not saying much.

I'm just shocked that Francis had a game where he didn't turn it over. He averaged something like 4 TO's a game his first year (and, if I'm not mistaken, kept up that average for at least his first four or five years in the league).

I remember when the Pistons played the Rockets and Francis turned it over something like ten times. And Stack said something like "I know I throw it away a lot, but I don't throw it away ten times."

[B.I.G.]

Exactly. That's basically why I made that comment.

[tin mad dog]

Is there any way in hell we could trade Ben Gordon to the Clippers for their 1st rounder?

[Kstat]

Originally Posted by tin mad dog

Is there any way in hell we could trade Ben Gordon to the Clippers for their 1st rounder?

No. They do not have their 1st rounder.

[tin mad dog]

Was this year's pick part of the Paul deal?

I was trying to think of one contending team that could maybe use a SG and that was the best I could come up with.

[Kstat]

Originally Posted by tin mad dog

Was this year's pick part of the Paul deal?

No, they traded it to Boston on daft night for Eric Bledsoe.

The Lakers IMO would be a better trade target. They have both theirs and Dallas' (top-20 protected until 2017) pick to work with.

They could even take Gordon for almost nothing. They still have Odom's trade exemption.

[Jeff Hause]

Originally Posted by tin mad dog

Was this year's pick part of the Paul deal?

I was trying to think of one contending team that could maybe use a SG and that was the best I could come up with.

Maybe Golden State -- Orlando's trying to deal for Monta Ellis, to appease Howard...

[whoDean]

Once again, same with Rip we are going to have be resigned to the fact that no NBA team will take that contract off the Pistons hands (not until closer to expiration at least)

[ghandi]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hause

Maybe Golden State -- Orlando's trying to deal for Monta Ellis, to appease Howard...

I'd heard they were trying to trade Ellis in a package for Howard ...who knows lol

[Jeff Hause]

Maybe, but what they said during the last game on TV was that, at least on Orlando's end, they're trying to keep Howard and surround him with more dynamic players.

[Jeff Hause]

Here you go:

Source -- Orlando Magic reach out to Golden State Warriors about Monta Ellis trade - ESPN Chicago

[Hobbs]

Someone, somewhere convince Orlando that Gordon is the key to keeping Dwight.

[RodimusPrime]

Too bad they don't have anyone we'd want other than Dwight.

[tin mad dog]

Expiring contracts and a 1st round pick work.

It's sad that I'm not sure if Gordon would be considered an improvement over JJ Reddick .

[RodimusPrime]

He's not.

[tin mad dog]

Their stats are pretty damn close. Gordon is scoring more but Reddick is shooting a better %. Ben's assists and rebounds are slightly better but Reddick plays 3 fewer minutes a game.

Neither is known for D.

What a shame.

This guy is right there with them.

[The King]

Someone on the forum mentioned a Charlie buyout and Gordon amnesty. That would be friggin ideal. Get rid of both those bums.

[hack]

Why would Charlie take a buyout? That's usually for the older guys who have somewhere else to go. Charlie's young and nobody wants him.

[King Mob]

CV would get snapped up fairly quickly if he got bought out. He's young, a versatile scorer and would come pretty cheap for the rest of the year. There are teams that won't mind that he plays no defense.

[hack]

But not for the money he's making now otherwise he could be just traded. Surely somebody wants him at half the price but that's precisely why, IMO, he's not a buyout candidate.

[King Mob]

Ah yes, I was looking at your statement from the league's perspectives, not Charlie's.

That said, watch CV replace Max in the starting lineup, put up 16 & 6 the rest of the way and demolish our lottery chances.

[hack]

If it means Joe can trade him off the roster I'll take it! Davis is the only one worth losing for, though I'd love to have Robinson too. I'm fine with Henson or Leonard or Sullinger picked at 8 or lower. I think those guys are better value in the lower half of the lottery than Barnes or Gilchrist are in the upper. This really is turning out to be not such a killer draft after all.

[The King]

It's still pretty top heavy where we will be drafting. We are going to land a good player as long as we keep losing.

[B.I.G.]

When Charlie V comes back, we will win 10 straight.

[Dave Bing]

He's not THAT kind of player.

[Stefan S]

Langlois answers teh fans' questions (nothing really new, but I thought it may be useful to link it):
PISTONS: Pistons Mailbag - Thursday, March 8, 2012