[mn3]

I think Stuckey is out for a game or two. Probably turns this into an automatic loss unless Knight and Gordon go crazy go nuts.

[Stefan S]

both teams play strong D
and the refs really let them play

if all goes well
we may have 12-8 quarter
or close

[mn3]

Refs are letting Memphis tackle the Pistons, and calling touch fouls on us just now. Disgusting. It's not like Memphis needs help to beat us.

[mn3]

And now the refs put a second super cheap foul on Monroe. I'd scream at the screen, but I'm really o.k. with the Pistons losing for the glory of the ping pong balls.

[Stefan S]

They score on us at will. Our D went seriously South.

[mn3]

49-30 at the half. We have just got to be the worst team in the league. This really can't be close. The guys Frank has to go to as bigs off the bench are Ben Wallace and Maxiell. Ben is just a shell of himself - a completely ineffective player at both ends of the court (and just the black hole of grossness on offense). Maxiell is even worse, somehow.

Starting Ben with Monroe is a total waste of Monroe's ability - he has nobody to pass to. Teams don't even pretend to put a man close to Ben.

[Kstat]

They didn't pretend to put a man close to Jonas either. He can miss that set shot from 18 feet or make it. Nobody is going to close out on him, either way.

[Kstat]

My problem with the game is this: We've reverted back to the Tayshaun point forward offense, and told Knight to stand in a corner and play off the ball, so we don't have any more turnovers.

Well, Knight has 2 assists and 0 turnovers at halftime. And we've scored 30 points on %38 shooting.

Yes, Tayshaun is a tempting safety valve, because he's smart and doesn't make mistakes with the ball. He's also not capable of facilitating an offense, so what we get time and time again is him taking his man 1 on 1 and waiting for a double team.

The ball isn't going through Monroe anymore. Knight is not learning anything by standing in a corner and watching Tayshaun pound the air out of the ball, and worst of all, we're even less effective offensively.

I liked Tayshun when he was playing off the ball and spotting up. He does that well. I loathe him dominating the offense, which does not help anything.

[Stefan S]

Finally, after a long stretch of this game being unwatchable,
Knight with some intensity on back to back drives/baskets.

[Stefan S]

another drive and Knight is on the line
a chance to cut it to two

[Stefan S]

3 more for Knght (drive then a tech)

only -7

[Dave Bing]

Go Brandon!

[Kstat]

Knight is really good when he isn't slow-dribbling up the floor and handing the ball off to someone else.

[rpmfla]

I don't know if the Grizz decided to take a quarter off or what, but the result was the Pistons...led by our rookie PG...cut 11 off the lead.

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by Kstat

Knight is really good when he isn't slow-dribbling up the floor and handing the ball off to someone else.

exactly.

We have a better O when we play faster and try to run.

Anyway, -8 after the 3rd

but we def play with a greater intensity now
and have more boards and more trips to the line

[Hobbs]

During preseason (what little there was of it) Knight looked pure point guard. During the regular season he's looked like a stone scorer. He needs to find a way to marry the two. If he does, look out.

[rpmfla]

They probably won't win, but the 2nd half has been a LOT more fun to watch than any half in long while.

[Stefan S]

The rook with many courageous drives and already 20 points.

(he must cut some of those totally stupid unnecessary turn overs)

[King Mob]

I called that Maxiell turnover before the bounce pass to him hit the ground.

[Stefan S]

TOs are killing us

[rpmfla]

Collapse when Daye and Max when in. Oh well...at least a glimpse of good play prior to this.

[zdwtr]

basically the pistons coaching staff experimenting w line ups knowing they gonna loose. daye and max on crunch time? ridiculous

[Stefan S]

We are -17 with Daye on the floor (13 minutes)

TOs are our undoing

[King Mob]

Is Monroe hurt? Or is Frank saving him for OT?

[King Mob]

Darko time.

[RodimusPrime]

Originally Posted by Stefan S

We are -17 with Daye on the floor (13 minutes)

TOs are our undoing

I disagree. Being almost completely devoid of talent is the main problem.

[Orwellian O.]

Walker Russell is tiny. Bynum II....and he turns the ball over just as much as Knight.

[Orwellian O.]

Daye looked to be getting his shot back in garbage time.

Once he learns how to shoot again...he will turn the ball over less since he will be less inclined to try to dribble around the court and will either pass or shoot.

[rpmfla]

Great 3rd quarter. Bad everything else. If the plan is to develop Knight and Monroe and get a high draft pick, mission accomplished.

[mn3]

Knight is so damn young - but he's got a lot of fight in him. I didn't see the whole game, but I enjoyed watching him tonight.

Let's face it - against a great/good D like Memphis's, you just cannot role out total non-scorers like Ben Wallace (starter!) and Jason Maxiell - especially when you are asking Prince to be a main scorer. Tay has got to be the worst main scorer on any team in the NBA.

But give Knight and Monroe another year of seasoning and improving and give them better offensive talent, and I think you're going to see both of these guys really excel.

[El Axe]

I guess I got lucky. I didn't see the first half, and only saw the main part of the run to cut the lead by 15. The run was fun to watch.

As soon as Daye entered the game, the game went south. The kid makes an effort and makes an occasional good play, but he needs to find a way to contribute better on D. I still see Brad Sellers when he plays.

I liked what I saw from Walker Russell -- he looks to distribute and facilitate, which is something the team sorely lacks otherwise. I hope they give him a few games to get a decent evaluation.

[papalawrence]

How are you guys watching.......streaming?

[El Axe]

I live in the Detroit area, so the Fox Sports channel.

[Kstat]

League PASS.

[zdwtr]

“Just continue to attack,” Knight said Prince told him. “And continue to get our team, our spirits, up. He said, ‘Good job attacking, good job bringing us back,’ and as I attack, get others involved, too. It means a lot. He’s been to a place I’m trying to get as far as the type of player he is. He wants the best for our team. Just to have your veterans talk to you and try to lead you in the right direction shows our team is trying to get better.” -from Freepress.

I thought Prince is doing what the organization asked him to do. Guide the rook. Well done Tay. It's a matter of time for us to get better.

Seeing Russel Jr play is actually more satisfying than seeing Bynum play of late. He is getting the team involved as opposed to Bynum who is incapable of making good assist. Positive for the acquisition. Max and JJ on frontcourt? what were they thinking? No investment whatsoever on Max, I'd rather play Mackiel. The kid probably got talent..

[Jeff Hause]

How many games left...?

[Orwellian O.]

Originally Posted by Kstat

League PASS.

sucker...

[Kstat]

Originally Posted by Orwellian O.

sucker...

Not really, Im just not a fan of pirating low quality game feeds. I do that with NFL games because I don't feel like shelling out $340 to watch a dozen lions games. That said, the picture quality is nothing short of awful. It's like watching a slideshow with radio.

$160 to watch (or re-watch) a few hundred NBA games is a fair price.

Also, I can watch games on my cell or my ipad when I'm at work, and the streams are excellent quality.

[Big Jerm]

Originally Posted by Kstat

Not really, Im just not a fan of pirating low quality game feeds. I do that with NFL games because I don't feel like shelling out $340 to watch a dozen lions games. That said, the picture quality is nothing short of awful. It's like watching a slideshow with radio.

$160 to watch (or re-watch) a few hundred NBA games is a fair price.

Also, I can watch games on my cell or my ipad when I'm at work, and the streams are excellent quality.

Agreed. I picked it up this year as well, and enjoy being able to sit on the couch and watch the games on my iPad while the wife watches her tv shows. Video quality is what convinced me to pay for it. The bootleg feeds are usually pretty bad.

[whoDean]

I'm a big fan of league pass, though I get it gratis via a buddy at Turner, but I think I'd still pay $160 for it. Quite slick on iPad, I like that it is a full screen feed this year, last year they had a stupid overlay over a good portion of the top of the screen.

[Kstat]

If he was really your buddy, he'd have gotten it for you free gratis...

[Orwellian O.]

Originally Posted by Kstat

Not really, Im just not a fan of pirating low quality game feeds. I do that with NFL games because I don't feel like shelling out $340 to watch a dozen lions games. That said, the picture quality is nothing short of awful. It's like watching a slideshow with radio.

$160 to watch (or re-watch) a few hundred NBA games is a fair price.

Also, I can watch games on my cell or my ipad when I'm at work, and the streams are excellent quality.

I must admit...I did like the preview they offered...and it is a good deal. I mean, I paid way more than that just to see the Rockets blow out the Pistons.

[whoDean]

Originally Posted by Kstat

If he was really your buddy, he'd have gotten it for you free gratis...

Why do you feel the need to be redundant?

[Kstat]

it was a deadwood reference. forget it.

[whoDean]

Ahhh, I should have known, you have such a keen editorial sense.