[Hobbs]

Decent start for us so far.

[Hobbs]

Stuck looking good early. Getting to the line and even, gasp, finishing some.

[fredsue]

any links?

[Hobbs]

Starting to get destroyed on the boards.

[Orwellian O.]

Stuck has looked pretty damn good. Kid has his sea legs back.

Walker is pretty good in transition...he is just so tiny. His future is as Will Bynum's, smaller, slightly less expensive backup.

[Hobbs]

The last half of the quarter Portland got every rebound. Just dominated there. We're only down one after one, but there's no way we hang around without stopping them on the boards.

Stuck had a wicked dunk and finished with 10 points in the quarter. Also, we only had 2 turnovers and they were both charges (so no easy bucket for Portland).

[Kstat]

It should be noted that this is the first time this season we've seen Suckey and Knight staring together. At least offensively, it's been a huge difference.

[Orwellian O.]

Wilkins and Tay with a nice give and go. Wilkins is a good, solid pro.

[Orwellian O.]

I'm liking Walker.

He is a true PG.

[Hobbs]

Walker is quality. He's better than Bynum at a minimum. Definitely plays to pass the ball.

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by Orwellian O.

I'm liking Walker.

He is a true PG.

He looks to set guys up and to pass, for sure.
He also plays some D.

[Orwellian O.]

Bynum days are limited.


Russell >>>>> Bynum

(he's better than Knight at this point)

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by fredsue

any links?

Detroit Pistons vs Portland Trailblazers Live Stream Online

[Hobbs]

Portland getting at least 2 shots at the basket every time down the floor. Can't believe we're ahead and allowing that many offensive rebounds.

[Orwellian O.]

Gordon and Bynum can stay hurt...team looks much better without them.

[Orwellian O.]

Bad series by Russell. A turnover and then he left his man wide open. Still...he has been playing great.

[Orwellian O.]

The rotation of: Stuck, Knight, Russell >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuck, Knight, Gordon, Bynum

[Stefan S]

9 - 1 offensive boards their way

[Stefan S]

... but we get to the line much more, that's (in part) why we are winning.

Also, finally the ball kind a goes in for us (on quite a few shots so far).
17 trips so far, made 14

[Orwellian O.]

His shot has been much better tonight...but Jonas is still a black hole on defense.

[Hobbs]

We've lost it a couple times and gave Portland open lay ups, but by and large our defense has been very, very good so far.

[Orwellian O.]

Stuck is in beast mode.

[Kstat]

Knight and Stuckey are so much fun to watch together. Both guys are really hard to stay in front of, and they both hawks the ball on defense.

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by Orwellian O.

Bynum days are limited.


Russell >>>>> Bynum

(he's better than Knight at this point)

R >> B, for sure.

But I am not so sure R >> Knight.

R has a better understanding of the game and its pace. So, he does not make mistakes. But Knight makes sometimes some wonderful plays that show how much talent he has. Also, h may be a better defender.

But, w/o a doubt, Russell seems a very nice find.

[Orwellian O.]

Stuck indicates that his groin will be hurting him for the rest of the season.

Oh well. I guess it won't hurt the Pistons draft position if he is held out every few games.


What is wrong with Gordon and Bynum?

[Hobbs]

11 point halftime lead. We held them to 40% shooting, they made 1 three pointer, and only got to the line 7 times. That's a great defensive half. If we could rebound we'd be up by 20 something.

Stuckey is going off. Jonas got hot for a while. Knight played under control. Prince looks like he's going to have another 20 point game.

[Kstat]

I like young Walker. Just wish he wasn't 29.

[Kstat]

Jonas still can't rebound for shit, but at least he's offensively much more comfortable on the 2nd unit.

For that matter, so is Tayshaun....

[zdwtr]

wow.. we're playing under control. I wonder why? having a true pg probably has something to do with it

[mn3]

Having two guards who can attack the paint is MUCH nicer than having Gordon in there. This is fun to watch. I like the future of team built around two guards who can initiate the offense, score, and attack the paint, and defend (just added that edit), PLUS, a big man who can do the same things from down low or the elbow.

It does make one think of eventually adding a 3rd guard who can do what Knight does. A 3 guard rotation of two guards like Knight, plus Stuckey, could be excellent for us. It's working nicely for Minnesota, btw.

[Kstat]

Stuckey is the best basketball player on this team. He just isn't a good point guard.

[Kstat]

Originally Posted by zdwtr

wow.. we're playing under control. I wonder why? having a true pg probably has something to do with it

Well, having stuckey out there with knight has a lot to do with it.

[Orwellian O.]

Originally Posted by Stefan S

R >> B, for sure.

But I am not so sure R >> Knight.

R has a better understanding of the game and its pace. So, he does not make mistakes. But Knight makes sometimes some wonderful plays that show how much talent he has. Also, h may be a better defender.

But, w/o a doubt, Russell seems a very nice find.

Certainly, Knight has all the intangibles that Russell does not and has better size so he is better on defense and more likely to be successful when driving into the paint.

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by Kstat

Knight and Stuckey are so much fun to watch together. Both guys are really hard to stay in front of, and they both hawks the ball on defense.

And they are both very willing to pass, too.
I like this combo a lot.

An area of concern -- Stuckey does not have lots of range and must rely on penetration. On the flip side, Knight can hit a 3. So, it looks like they may be able to complement each other well. I wonder how it will work in a long run, once we start making playoffs.

[Hobbs]

For the season, we have been a much better team with Stuckey playing. Even when he's not playing well he's able to settle the team down.

[Orwellian O.]

Originally Posted by Kstat

Stuckey is the best basketball player on this team. He just isn't a good point guard.

He is a good PG. Just not CP3. Given that one can expect Knight to be at Stuck's level by the end of the year from a PG perspective, it is best to move him to SG.

Two ball handlers who can attack seems to work for this team, especially considering the only other players that can score in the paint on a regular basis are Prince and Monroe.

[mn3]

Originally Posted by Hobbs

For the season, we have been a much better team with Stuckey playing. Even when he's not playing well he's able to settle the team down.

I get (now) that Stuckey isn't a point guard. But he is a very good ballhandler, and he's always been excellent at not turning the ball over. (Tons of his turnovers come from him committing offensive fouls - which, IMO, really aren't turnovers). The thing with him and Knight in there is that if the defense takes away the first one's driving lanes, there's a good chance that a path to the other will allow the second one to penetrate into the lane with more room.

In the next couple of seasons, that, along with Monroe, is really going to pay off as the team learns to play the system and with each other - and of course as the talent base matures (a lot) and improves (a lot).

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by Hobbs

For the season, we have been a much better team with Stuckey playing. Even when he's not playing well he's able to settle the team down.

true!

given the number of our injuries, maybe those 3 wins do not look too bad. (naturally, given the number of ping pong balls we may receive, they look wonderful.)

[Orwellian O.]

Originally Posted by Stefan S

And they are both very willing to pass, too.
I like this combo a lot.

An area of concern -- Stuckey does not have lots of range and must rely on penetration. On the flip side, Knight can hit a 3. So, it looks like they may be able to complement each other well. I wonder how it will work in a long run, once we start making playoffs.

Seems like Stuck worked on his shot this summer. His outside shooting has been much improved. He will have to do that as his career progresses. He can't bang inside the paint like he does now forever.

[Orwellian O.]

Given that Russell and Gordon are about the same age...if Russell can keep his level of play up....


Gordon = trade bait

[Orwellian O.]

Stuckey and Knight with really nice back to back offensive series.

[Hobbs]

Monroe has taken 1 shot tonight.

[Stefan S]

Originally Posted by Orwellian O.

Given that Russell and Gordon are about the same age...if Russell can keep his level of play up....


Gordon = trade bait

I'd agree with it.

There is no point in having 10 million dollar player coming off the bench.

[Stefan S]

Kelser raves about us playing fast.

[Hobbs]

Stuckey making all kinds of lucky shit from 3 point range tonight.

[Orwellian O.]

Originally Posted by Stefan S

I'd agree with it.

There is no point in having 10 million dollar player coming off the bench.

Gordon has played well this season. He works in a 3 guard rotation.

But, Russell seems to be a better fit. Of course, we have no idea if Russell can do what he has done so far tonight on a consistent basis.

[Hobbs]

We've fallen apart offensively here.

[Orwellian O.]

Stuck is tired.

Good time for the Pistons to start looking to feed Monroe.

[zdwtr]

11-2 run by portland. here we go again

[Orwellian O.]

Please put Macklin in for Jonas. He has lost the Pistons 8 points in like 45 seconds.