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Dave Bing · 05-22-2009, 08:37 AM

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I think he learned a lot by the end of the third season, and I bet the Wiz are around 5 or 6 seed as soon as next season barring significant injury to key players.

I have a bet with Hause that says otherwise.

Jeff Hause · 05-22-2009, 08:52 AM

Money, Hack's a moron about this. After a 39-win season the dipshit is still complaining about the conference finals three years in a row. Just insult him and move on. He's begging you to do it.

Money23 · 05-22-2009, 04:19 PM

But time's proved me right -- a mentally checked-out LB is better than a fully committed Flip Saunders.

No. All things were simply not equal when Flip took over AFTER LB helped to cultivate that mindset in the players. There's no evidence to convince me otherwise.

Money23 · 05-22-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Hause

Money, Hack's a moron about this. After a 39-win season the dipshit is still complaining about the conference finals three years in a row. Just insult him and move on. He's begging you to do it.

I respect his opinion, that's why it's hard to understand this stance.

mn3 · 05-22-2009, 04:40 PM

Unless the Pistons were perfectly healthy and not flipping switches, every team Flip coached went as far as it could have. Flip's problem is he took over a team that was pretty much uncoachable and then became tapped-out. Injuries killed us in at least two of those years - Sheed's ankle the year Miami won, and Chauncey hammy against Boston last year.

This year's team could have been coached by Chuck Daly with Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach as his assistants, and it was going NOWHERE.

Players matter in this league, and let's face it, we didn't have them and every year since 2005 the roster has gotten older, less coachable and worse.

Jeff Hause · 05-22-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Money23

I respect his opinion, that's why it's hard to understand this stance.

Actually, it's easy: A TRULY bad coach on the team who REALLY caused the players to quit has shown that Hack's full of shit, so he ignores it and compares Flip to Larry Brown. Sort of like how he ignores what Brown has done since he left here.

hack · 05-24-2009, 01:13 PM

That's true if one ignores the multiple times I've said that Flip's much better than Curry, including in this thread. I don't think it's hard to understand that Flip wasn't the right coach for this team following LB.

Jeff Hause · 05-24-2009, 02:47 PM

LOL

Who was the right coach -- Norman Schwartzkof?

The only uncoachable guy was Rasheed, who reverted to his historically moronic ways as soon as we won a championship. They should have traded the dope while he still had value. We'd still be a contending team...

hack · 05-25-2009, 02:04 AM

Billups contradicted Flip about ISOs in the press and Tay, Dice and Lindsey questioned his judgment. Sheed must have forced them to say these things publicly against their will.

Jeff Hause · 05-25-2009, 02:18 AM

Gosh, that never happens in the NBA...

hack · 05-25-2009, 02:23 AM

Go get help, nutjob.

Jeff Hause · 05-25-2009, 02:25 AM

Yeah, 59 wins is a "mutiny," but I'm the nutjob. Dumbass...

Jeff Hause · 05-25-2009, 02:27 AM

So, clarify, dumbass. When Dwight Howard criticized Van Gundy's coaching last week, was that a mutiny?

hack · 05-25-2009, 02:29 AM

I hope you enjoyed this brief departure from our regular discussion schedule.

Jeff Hause · 05-25-2009, 02:32 AM

You mean where I bring up things you have no good answer for, Tower of Jello?

Money23 · 05-26-2009, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Hause

LOL

Who was the right coach -- Norman Schwartzkof?

OK, that was funny...and probably correct.

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Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,717 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	LOL Who was the right coach -- Norman Schwartzkof? The only uncoachable guy was Rasheed, who reverted to his historically moronic ways as soon as we won a championship. They should have traded the dope while he still had value. We'd still be a contending team... Last edited by Jeff Hause; 05-24-2009 at 02:50 PM.

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05-22-2009, 08:52 AM	#52
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,717 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Money, Hack's a moron about this. After a 39-win season the dipshit is still complaining about the conference finals three years in a row. Just insult him and move on. He's begging you to do it.

05-22-2009, 04:19 PM	#53
Money23 Sixth Man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: F-f-f-f-Flintown Posts: 3,941 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	But time's proved me right -- a mentally checked-out LB is better than a fully committed Flip Saunders. No. All things were simply not equal when Flip took over AFTER LB helped to cultivate that mindset in the players. There's no evidence to convince me otherwise.

05-22-2009, 04:40 PM	#55
mn3 Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,510 : 0 For This Post 3 Total	Unless the Pistons were perfectly healthy and not flipping switches, every team Flip coached went as far as it could have. Flip's problem is he took over a team that was pretty much uncoachable and then became tapped-out. Injuries killed us in at least two of those years - Sheed's ankle the year Miami won, and Chauncey hammy against Boston last year. This year's team could have been coached by Chuck Daly with Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach as his assistants, and it was going NOWHERE. Players matter in this league, and let's face it, we didn't have them and every year since 2005 the roster has gotten older, less coachable and worse.

05-24-2009, 01:13 PM	#57
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,082 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	That's true if one ignores the multiple times I've said that Flip's much better than Curry, including in this thread. I don't think it's hard to understand that Flip wasn't the right coach for this team following LB.

05-25-2009, 02:04 AM	#59
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,082 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Billups contradicted Flip about ISOs in the press and Tay, Dice and Lindsey questioned his judgment. Sheed must have forced them to say these things publicly against their will.

05-25-2009, 02:18 AM	#60
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,717 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Gosh, that never happens in the NBA...

05-25-2009, 02:23 AM	#61
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,082 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	Go get help, nutjob.

05-25-2009, 02:25 AM	#62
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,717 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	Yeah, 59 wins is a "mutiny," but I'm the nutjob. Dumbass...

05-25-2009, 02:27 AM	#63
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,717 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	So, clarify, dumbass. When Dwight Howard criticized Van Gundy's coaching last week, was that a mutiny?

05-25-2009, 02:29 AM	#64
hack Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11,082 : 0 For This Post 0 Total	I hope you enjoyed this brief departure from our regular discussion schedule.

05-25-2009, 02:32 AM	#65
Jeff Hause Sixth Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,717 : 0 For This Post 1 Total	You mean where I bring up things you have no good answer for, Tower of Jello?